32 ACP, Berry's 71gr .312" & Fiocchi brass?

Carmady · May 22, 2018, 11:26 AM

Has anyone used this combo with success?

I found something on reloading the 32 ACP which said the European brass has thicker walls and the European bullets are slightly smaller diameter than the thinner walled USA brass with slightly larger diameter bullets.

And, that using the larger diameter USA bullets in the thicker walled (smaller case inside diameter) European brass would result in a thicker than normal cartridge which would not chamber.

I'm not finding much on reloading the 32 ACP, so I'm wondering if anyone has loaded Fiocchi brass with Berry's 71gr .312" bullets.

If not, what have you used that worked?

Thanks.

T. O'Heir · May 22, 2018, 01:38 PM

Lots of European made brass gets reloaded with no fuss. The thickness of the brass has nothing to do with chambering or the bullet diameter. Outside dimensions will be the same. CIP(the European SAAMI equivalent) and SAAMI case lengths for .32 ACP are the same. So is the case mouth.
So loading Fiocchi brass is the same as loading Winchester. The only data on Hodgdon's site is for a 71 grain FMJ though. Berry's only .312" bullet is plated. Those use cast bullet data and Berry doesn't publish any data. Mind you, at .32 ACP pressures, the jacketed data will do.

reddog81 · May 22, 2018, 03:07 PM

I've used Remington .311 bullets from MidwayUSA and Fiocchi brass. I didn't have any problems.

A while ago I measured the bullet diameter of a variety of 32 ACP loads and the general consensus was US made ammo was .309 and foreign stuff was .312. The .309 stuff shot better in a good condition 1903 Colt and the .312 shot better in a 1903 Colt with a worn out barrel. The .309 bullets would drop almost half way into the barrel before touching the rifling. The ammo was Winchester, Remington, Fiocchi, Magtech, and a couple other foreign brands I can't think of off the top of my head. With cast bullets I always use .312.

I would consider it a possibility that the thick bullet and thick brass might not work, but you'll probably be fine unless your gun has a tight chamber.

**Unclenick** · May 22, 2018, 04:06 PM

I ran into some eastern European 45 Auto brass once that was too thick. A pulled bullet measured 0.450". Loaded with cast bullets of about 0.452", that brass would not chamber in one of my guns. So, it can happen. I just don't think it's normal. You'll need to measure to see. Make up some dummies by seating a bullet in samples of each case you are considering and measure the brass OD overtop of them or plunk test them in your chamber. If you need the bullets back, and inertial puller will remove them. But the dummies will let you rack the slide and see how feeding goes, too.

Tylergnut11 · May 31, 2018, 03:31 PM

Unclenick - you are talking Privipartisan brass. I boils some of those bullets and they only work in Nickel Brass.

May 22, 2018, 11:26 AM	#1
Carmady Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2013 Location: on the lam Posts: 1,735	32 ACP, Berry's 71gr .312" & Fiocchi brass? Has anyone used this combo with success? I found something on reloading the 32 ACP which said the European brass has thicker walls and the European bullets are slightly smaller diameter than the thinner walled USA brass with slightly larger diameter bullets. And, that using the larger diameter USA bullets in the thicker walled (smaller case inside diameter) European brass would result in a thicker than normal cartridge which would not chamber. I'm not finding much on reloading the 32 ACP, so I'm wondering if anyone has loaded Fiocchi brass with Berry's 71gr .312" bullets. If not, what have you used that worked? Thanks.

May 22, 2018, 01:38 PM	#2
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	Lots of European made brass gets reloaded with no fuss. The thickness of the brass has nothing to do with chambering or the bullet diameter. Outside dimensions will be the same. CIP(the European SAAMI equivalent) and SAAMI case lengths for .32 ACP are the same. So is the case mouth. So loading Fiocchi brass is the same as loading Winchester. The only data on Hodgdon's site is for a 71 grain FMJ though. Berry's only .312" bullet is plated. Those use cast bullet data and Berry doesn't publish any data. Mind you, at .32 ACP pressures, the jacketed data will do. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

May 22, 2018, 04:06 PM	#4
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,060	I ran into some eastern European 45 Auto brass once that was too thick. A pulled bullet measured 0.450". Loaded with cast bullets of about 0.452", that brass would not chamber in one of my guns. So, it can happen. I just don't think it's normal. You'll need to measure to see. Make up some dummies by seating a bullet in samples of each case you are considering and measure the brass OD overtop of them or plunk test them in your chamber. If you need the bullets back, and inertial puller will remove them. But the dummies will let you rack the slide and see how feeding goes, too. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

May 22, 2018, 03:07 PM	#3
reddog81 Senior Member Join Date: October 16, 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,634	I've used Remington .311 bullets from MidwayUSA and Fiocchi brass. I didn't have any problems. A while ago I measured the bullet diameter of a variety of 32 ACP loads and the general consensus was US made ammo was .309 and foreign stuff was .312. The .309 stuff shot better in a good condition 1903 Colt and the .312 shot better in a 1903 Colt with a worn out barrel. The .309 bullets would drop almost half way into the barrel before touching the rifling. The ammo was Winchester, Remington, Fiocchi, Magtech, and a couple other foreign brands I can't think of off the top of my head. With cast bullets I always use .312. I would consider it a possibility that the thick bullet and thick brass might not work, but you'll probably be fine unless your gun has a tight chamber.

May 31, 2018, 03:31 PM	#5
Tylergnut11 Junior Member Join Date: May 30, 2018 Posts: 2	Unclenick - you are talking Privipartisan brass. I boils some of those bullets and they only work in Nickel Brass.