August 16, 2020, 04:08 PM | #1 |
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Body armor
Does anyone have recommendations for places to buy body armor? Most likely I will get some concealable kind first but may get some kind for home defense that will work on rifle rounds. Thank you.
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August 16, 2020, 04:45 PM | #2 |
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AR 500 armor has a large selection of armor and acc. Long wait times these days
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August 16, 2020, 05:14 PM | #3 |
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Gonna sleep in it?
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August 17, 2020, 07:21 PM | #5 |
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What are you trying to use the armor for? or rather in what circumstances to you want to try and wear it?
I have some experience with soft vests, but I would NOT consider body armor to be "concealable", unless you are wearing a heavy coat/jacket. It is also wicket hot and does not breathe, its like being inside a ziplock bag. Also soft body armor has a shelf life, generally in the 5yr range, after that it expires and will no longer hold its rating. The only work around it steel plates, they last forever as long as they don't rust out, but are wicked heavy.
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August 17, 2020, 08:58 PM | #6 |
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Unless you know specifically when you are going to need to defend your home, you would have to wear it all the time. I doubt a burglar or home invader will wait for you to put it on.
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August 17, 2020, 09:05 PM | #7 |
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Google it.
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For example, this guy was on the phone with 911 for 4 minutes before shooting an intruder... https://komonews.com/news/local/i-ha...ooting-burglar This woman was on the phone with 911 for 21 minutes as two men tried to gain entry. She had time to get armed, give her baby a bottle, and talk extensively with 911... https://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-woman...ry?id=15285605 This woman was on the phone for over 10 minute with 911 after arming herself with a shotgun... https://oklahoman.com/article/342280...lincoln-county These folks were on the phone for several minutes with 911 before shooting through the door and killing the intruder... https://www.myplainview.com/news/art...ng-8717798.php The hero of the Sutherland Springs church shooting had time to get an AR15 from his safe, a magazine, ammo, and load the magazine while responding to the shooting. He had time to put on a vest... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suther...hurch_shooting This lady spent time on the phone describing what was going on, when entry was made, the person she saw, etc. etc. She could have put on a vest... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbdqyw9sASU While controversial, John Horn had plenty of time to put on a vest before confronting burglars of a house he was watching... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Ho...ng_controversy Another... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB1CPeWvplI These people had over 15 minutes... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_CNgS_1rjw This woman had quite a bit of time... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5OQ2PMPYu0 No doubt I could find you many more exampless where people had time to do a lot of things before either they shot intruders or ended up dead or injured themselves, but that would be overkill and these will suffice. My point here is that if you don't have a ballistic vest, then you definitely can't access it in a time of need. That does not mean that you will always have time to access it, but a lot of people certainly would have had time. The notion that you need to be wearing it all the time and sleeping in it for it to be useful is just plain naive. You have time to access one if you hear a bump in the night and decide to go an investigate it as well.
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August 18, 2020, 03:37 PM | #9 |
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Silly? Maybe.
t In my opinion, the money would be better spent on other things like lighting, reinforced doors, alarms, etc.-passive things that make it harder for someone to hurt you. |
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My point was that body armor is way down the list of important things for home defense, in my opinion.
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August 19, 2020, 08:39 AM | #12 | |
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If i was forced to live in Portland, Chicago, or similar TODAY, i would want some armor.... |
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August 19, 2020, 04:25 PM | #13 |
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Our threat in Utah has been armed militias deputizing themselves as police.
Had them patrolling a park a few streets from us. Park filled with kids. Just saying, the body armor business? Eye roll a bit. Of course, all of them had it. Second it is used in anything useful, let me know. |
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There's an old saying about opinions, and how they resemble something else everyone has one of.
It's okay to express an opinion here. It's not okay to denigrate another member's sincerely-held opinion. In this particular case, opinions were not asked for. What was asked for was links to sources. Hint, hint ...
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OK.
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Just a note about body armor. I don't have any, but I have looked into it. They have an expiration date. Soft armor, ceramic, even steel. Some of that expiration date is liability, being in the back of sweaty patrol cars, UV rays etc.
In theory, although I've seen the expiration date for steel armor to be 10 years, I would think that the steel itself wouldn't expire so long as it doesn't get rusty. Perhaps the buildup coating to stop the fragmentation, but not the steel. |
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save $20 every month so when your current vest expires you'll have enough saved up to buy another.
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You can put them on very quickly and it has all your gadgets attached and ready to go. To stop most rifles, you would have to step up to level 4 or some of the exotic stuff like dragon skin. Imo, level 4 is too heavy for home use and Dragon Skin is way too expensive. Level III or 3A is about ideal for me. |
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August 24, 2020, 02:13 PM | #20 |
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there is a new vest out there that is flexible concealable rifle resistant. I've seen pop ups on social media and it looks promising however, the cost is almost 2Gs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qL8s_DpUDc |
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I run III+ plates, those stop 7.62x39 and all the 223/556 threats AND 308 M80 ball. |
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August 25, 2020, 01:52 PM | #22 |
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It is true. MOST rifles penetrate level III.
I said "most.". |
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The manufacturer has since gone out of business and the product is no longer made.
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August 31, 2020, 12:28 PM | #25 |
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as far as usefulness, my CCW instructor wore one every time he took a class to the range. He didnt trust any of us to not have a ND... lol
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