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Old December 15, 2005, 05:42 PM   #1
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How good a shot are you? Smiley face at 50 yards?

Remember the Lethal weapon movie where Danny Glover takes his M19 and plants one in the center of hte head on the sillouette target and brags to Mel Gibson who then sends the target back to 50-75 yards (or some loooong distance) while humming a tune. He then takes his Berretta and makes a smiley face on the head of the target.

Is anyone in here that good?

For me, I can hold a pretty good grouping about the size of the spread of my hand and fingers at center mass of the sillouette of my hand with my Official Police at 15 yards with one hand and with the Weaver (I think, it's weaver anyway, it's where my left hand is bent and is pushing against my right gun arm that is in a straight postion) stance I can get a grouping about the size of the palm of my hand at 15 yards.
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Old December 15, 2005, 05:47 PM   #2
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50 yards? My smiley face would probably look more like this: ......
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Old December 15, 2005, 05:54 PM   #3
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50 yards? I'd count myself lucky to hit paper!

Yeah, yeah, I really am that bad with a pistol. I need to practice more.
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Old December 15, 2005, 05:56 PM   #4
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I can hit paper at fifty but that is it.
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Old December 15, 2005, 06:05 PM   #5
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Of course I can, I'm an American male!
I'm an expert at shooting, love and fast cars.
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I only need a lot of practice at three of those

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Old December 15, 2005, 06:20 PM   #6
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I can almost do it at 25 feet.
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Old December 15, 2005, 06:49 PM   #7
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I can't make a smiley face at 5 yards.
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Old December 15, 2005, 06:58 PM   #8
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Using the right hand or left hand?
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Old December 15, 2005, 06:58 PM   #9
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50 yards I can duplicate Mel Gibsons shots

With my scoped Rem.700.

I would be hardpressed to do that with the rifle unscoped.

50 yards with my most accurate handgun the Ruger P345, I can keep all 9 shots on 8x11 paper and that is on a good day.
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Old December 15, 2005, 07:24 PM   #10
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Sure, you have an expert shoot it beforehand, put on a blank target, run it out to a loooong range, pan the camera back to me, and then the guy that is downrange will put up the target that the expert shot (while I'm shooting blanks the whole time) and then I bring it back.



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Old December 15, 2005, 07:40 PM   #11
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I can shoot a "face" into a target at 50 yards, but unfortunately it looks more like the elephant man than a smiley face.

Or one of those Picasso paintings ...

At 21 FEET I can shoot a pretty decent smiley face. Crooked smile and eyes aren't even, but you can tell what it's supposed to be.

Yeah ... I've tried it a few times.
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Old December 15, 2005, 07:52 PM   #12
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In the movie they were shooting in an indoor range and I don't know any indoor ranges that are 50 yards. Most of them are, at the most, 25 yards(75ft) and even at that range there would be few people who would be that good to shoot a semi-auto handgun in a unsupported, standing position and "draw" a smiley face with their hits. Especially in a fast rapid fire motion like Gibson did in the movie rather than slow well aimed shots. The miracle of Hollywood.
Perhaps maybe most decent shooters could do it at 30-40 ft. I never tried it, but I know I have better control of the placement of my shots at around 15 ft where I could make a smile face.
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Old December 15, 2005, 09:27 PM   #13
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Now, who can sever the upper arms and neck of a target like Robocop did at the range? With a full auto handgun, held in one hand, and out to the side (not lined up with the dominant eye)?


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Old December 15, 2005, 09:30 PM   #14
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I have a Smith 686 that will hold a 2" group at 50 yards all day long,
using a benchrest.
The gun might be capable of the task, but finding an operator up to it,
especially offhand, might be impossible.
On the other hand... if "Riggs" is such a good shot, how did he burn through
two mags of 9mm firing at the helicopter (the bad guys) and not even scratch
it?

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Old December 15, 2005, 09:44 PM   #15
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i could do it at 50 with my .308 iron sights, might be a bit crooked but recognisable. With my beretta, mayby 10m tops, any it would be a big one
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Old December 15, 2005, 09:52 PM   #16
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On the other hand... if "Riggs" is such a good shot, how did he burn through
two mags of 9mm firing at the helicopter (the bad guys) and not even scratch
it?

I'm sure he blames the downdraft from the rotor blades.


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Old December 15, 2005, 10:30 PM   #17
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Sure I can - by mine always has one eye going one way and one the other - ala Homer Simpson...
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Old December 15, 2005, 10:41 PM   #18
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I think I am doing good to hit an 18 inch gong at 100m with a pistol about 50 % of the time.
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Old December 16, 2005, 01:24 AM   #19
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Way back in a 1965 competition...

I put two 5 round strings in the X ring at fifty yards...

No, it wasn't rapid fire...

I believe I could have done a 50 yard smiley back then...
Because I have done a 15 yard smiley recently...

Yes, it was rapid fire...
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Old December 16, 2005, 08:50 AM   #20
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not a chance...I can keep all six in a paper plate at 100 yard with my model 629 (8 3/8" barrel) with iron sites, but that's with a good rest!!
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Old December 16, 2005, 09:00 AM   #21
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I can't shoot a smiley face at 50 yards, but I can hit the side of a barn.......if I go inside it first and use a couple of haybales as a rest.
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Old December 16, 2005, 09:03 AM   #22
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Much like boasting about women, money and sucess, people brag about how good a shot they are. Well, I go the the range quite often and funny, these great shots are nowhere to be seen practicing there. Sure there are guys with high power scopes that while benchresting can shoot very tight groups, but as far as handholding open sights, rifle or handgun, not happening. Outside of some professionals and very gifted, skilled shooters, the average guy is lucky to keep them all on target. When we all sit around the range between session or when taking a break, the excuses for the groups sound like the guys at the racetrack that "knew that horse was gonna win", just didn't bet it. And as for me, the only smiley face I get from shooting, is my own from having a good time.
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Old December 16, 2005, 11:00 AM   #23
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That is definately "Movie Magic", I can sort of do it at 25 yard with a MKII .22, But I have to take my time (no bang,bang,bang, ta da, done). The smile is the hardest part, My face usually looks like it is having a stroke. With my 9mm PT-92, I can barely do it at 20 ft (7 yards) . I remember the scene and that is a 50 yard range. At 50 yards with a target grade pistol and a scope. Maybe if your good. With an out of the box Beretta 92F...no way.
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Old December 16, 2005, 11:20 AM   #24
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I think with a red dot sight and a good quality .22 pistol, I could make a somewhat decent smiley. I sure as heck couldn't do it rapid fire and a red dot with magnification of 4x would make it a much better smiley. I've been getting Bin Laden targets when I go to th range lately, especially since I have to suffer the rediculously long lines goint through airport security. I can usually clear a nice area between his eyes with my Glock 26 at 7 yds. I guess my skills are pretty average though.
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Old December 16, 2005, 02:08 PM   #25
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To the skeptics...

When I was competing... many years ago...

I placed 28 out of 30 rounds, slow fire, timed fire and rapid fire at 25 and 50 yards, in one hole, in the X-ring ...

and, I lost the match!

There are many shooters who were better than I, and many, many more who were just as good...

Know this... the 50 yard smiley is DEFINITELY possible with a high grade 1911 .45ACP and open sights.

There is NO question and no doubt in my military mind...
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