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June 18, 2010, 11:01 AM | #1 |
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Has Kagan compared the NRA to the KKK?
This piece in the National Review suggests Supreme Court nominee Kagan has compared the NRA to the KKK. The Review says it found two documents suggesting this.
Both documents stem from her service with the Clinton administration. It involved review of a bill that would give immunity to certain charities. In the first document, a colleague wrote that "bad guy orgs" like the NRA and KKK might be granted immunity by the bill. There is some handwriting on it which the Review says appears to be Kagan's. The second document is a memo from this same colleague to Kagan. It says he checked and that neither the NRA or KKK was on the tax exempt list covered by the bill and then states, "“If you have other names you want me to run down in the Cumulative List, I would be glad to check them out.” This, says the Review writer, suggests Kagan had requested the check of the NRA and KKK. I know that some posters here have suggested Kagan might be the best of a bad lot of potential nominees on gun rights. Some even mention she has apparently shot a gun before. But, as we know, those opposed to gun rights have always believed they have the right to own guns, just that the average man or woman can't be trusted with them. Witness gun control aimed at African-Americans in the Jim Crowe era in the South. There have been a number of prominent gun grabbers who have their own guns but insist the average person should not. So, the question is whether this latest news really places any real impediment in Kagan's pathway? |
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FWIW, I don't see Kagan's comments likening the NRA to the KKK. Both were organizations that the Clinton administration didn't like. Is that any secret to anyone here? She might have also compared the Jewish Defense League to the KKK in this context.
I'm not saying that she is, or ever will be, a gun rights advocate, but what she did as an advocate for her employer (the Clinton administration) and what she believes privately are not necessarily one and the same. ACLU lawyers are quick to support the right of the KKK to march or exercise other of their Constitutional rights. (Except, of course, their 2nd Amendment Rights. ) Does that make them racist, or even indicate that they have racist beliefs? Kagan certainly wouldn't be my choice for the Supreme Court. But I believe she's still about the most benign of those on President Obama's short list.
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The first the elitist who thinks gun should basically be regulated out of the hands of those poorer/darker/whatever than themselves or those they feel they control(military, police, etc.). It is not only white millionaires with this perspective. I know lower middle class hunters and Asians with these perspectives. Heck, I worked with a first generation African immigrant who thought as much about the descendants of slaves in the US. This group terrifies me and includes people like Mike Dewine, McCain, and my Father. Many if not most are "conservatives." The second is idealists. They actually think a gun buster sign makes them safer. They think criminals will not be able to get guns if they are illegal. They look at gun crime numbers in the UK dropping after the ban and refuse to acknowledge that violent crime numbers did not drop. The vast majority of Liberal anti-gun proponents and those that I actually meet and talk to fall into this group. I find them to be a whole lot less terrifying than the other group and almost feel sorry for them as they seem to have a "the government/society will provide and protect me." Quote:
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I don't know about your father. I do know that John McCain is no conservative. He may be a Republican, but that doesn't make him conservative. I had to look up Mike Dewine. Pretty obscure reference. Again, just because someone puts a big R by their name and candidacy doesn't make them conservative. But, again, I'm not labeling people conservative or liberal. The issue is whether they support gun rights or not. It is the "elitists" to which I refer and who believe the masses cannot be trusted, only they can. Quote:
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