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Old August 7, 2018, 03:00 PM   #1
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Form 1 approval in 96 days

I filed a Form 1 for an SBR on 4/25. (Individual, paper.)
I got it back, approved, yesterday, 8/6.
The approval date was 7/30.

From mailing to approval was 96 days (3m, 5d).
Total time between mailing and receipt was 103 days (3m 12d).

People are telling me they've never seen one faster in this decade.
I didn't expect to see it this soon, either.
But I don't think it's setting records, or anything.

A quick check of NFA Tracker shows a few other people getting Form 1s approved in 4 months, or a bit over, in the last month. ...But there are still plenty of people complaining that they've been waiting for 6-8 months, and still have nothing.

Thoughts?
Is it really that special?
Is the ATF actually doing something to reduce wait times? Or is it likely to be revealed as just a statistical anomaly that graced me with good luck?



I am, of course, still waiting on the Form 4s filed 2/6 and 3/8. (Estimated dates. I'm too lazy to go check my copies.)
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Old August 7, 2018, 06:58 PM   #2
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I can't speak to turnaround time. But, I have an old Winchester Model 24 double barrel 12 gauge sitting here with damage to the muzzle and separation of the solder. I've been thinking I could "restore it" with my bandsaw and turn it into an SBS "coach gun". Your post gives me hope that the wait may be worth getting the paperwork done.
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Old August 8, 2018, 07:54 AM   #3
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That sounds fast for the current system.

My first SBR took only 77 days, but that was on the e-file system for a trust, and the next one took 84 days on the same system. The last two each took over 5 months.

All four of my form 4s (filed in early 2017) took 8 months to be approved.
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Old August 10, 2018, 03:20 PM   #4
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I guess we'll just see how things take shape over the next few months with Form 1 wait times.

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Engraved and assembled in the as-filed/as-'registered' form:



Looks pretty funky.

It won't be staying like this. The intent with this SBR was use with some other uppers, but they were all unfinished, had unknowns, or required modification before use as an SBR. So, I went with a known quantity when filing the Form 1: The 5.56 7.5" upper that was ready to go and wouldn't be changing (it has a mostly-permanent home on my "good" pistol lower).

And, yes, if you're wondering, overall length is over 26". Even with that little 7.5" barrel, it comes in at 27.5". Without the butt extension and flash hider, it would be at about 25.4" ... not that it matters much. All other barrels are longer. I don't think I'll risk my suppressor on that short barrel. And I'm not removing the butt extension. (It's not for recoil mitigation. I need it for the Length of Pull.)

Remember: A clean, organized work space is a sign of .. ... ... Wait, where did I put that quote?...
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Old August 10, 2018, 05:00 PM   #5
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Your vise is canted, it'll never be accurate!

Nice start, all of mine are 10.5", except my .22LR upper and it is 9". Good luck with the rest of your uppers!
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Old August 10, 2018, 09:42 PM   #6
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Your vise is canted, it'll never be accurate!
Believe it or not, that's a pivot pin detent pin loss prevention tactic. I didn't bother adjusting after I was done. I have found that shooting the the detent pins slightly downward, at about that angle and azimuth, usually results in the pin bouncing off the wall and coming to rest on a small piece of carpet under my reloading bench.
Any other angle, and it's a visit to the parts box, 'cause that sucker's gone.
But, no pins were fired across the room today!

I really need to just make a danged pivot pin installation/removal tool. I have the round stock for it. All it needs is a hole, a chamfer, and trim to length.
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Old August 11, 2018, 05:23 AM   #7
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Or just buy a 1/4" clevis pin the next time you're in a hardware aisle... that's what I've used.
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Old August 11, 2018, 01:59 PM   #8
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Hmmm... I have a few.
...Must find one to see what the hole size is.
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Old September 26, 2018, 11:41 PM   #9
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My 2 Form 4s (Trust) were sent in on the 17th of April, check cashed on the 20th. Still waiting.

So I'm at 159 days right now.

Buddy had a Form 4 approved 3 weeks ago, filed Feb 20th. So I hope I will see mine in the next month. Keeping my fingers crossed.

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Old September 30, 2018, 10:45 PM   #10
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Wait times were down to about 6 months about a month ago but it's starting to creep back up to 7 or 8 months now.

Individual forms are taking a little less time than trusts.

Supposedly the NFA branch is hiring 3 additional examiners to help speed up the process.
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Old October 2, 2018, 08:44 PM   #11
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Interesting. Thanks for the feedback.
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Nice job, op!
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