January 4, 2019, 06:03 PM | #1 |
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No it's not the end of the world, but just another added expense to get a gun.
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January 4, 2019, 07:10 PM | #2 |
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I buy used guns off armslist. I do hope this fails though.
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January 4, 2019, 07:21 PM | #3 |
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It's a proposed 7% tax on guns in South Carolina to fund school resource officers.
The school resource officers could be handy for many, many reasons. I don't see why gun buyers should take the hit on this. Maybe some hit, but not the whole cost. I believe there is ALREADY a tax on guns and ammo for natural resources too. I am in favor of the schools having some sort of security personnel be it police or armed staff that are on the premises. I really like the idea of the school giving over a room with an outside entrance as a police substation. |
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Police substation on school...sounds reasonable. I like the idea of SRO myself, but agree on spreading the burden.
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My grandkids smallish elementary school(about 250 students) is such a soft target..and altho in a historically safe neighborhood, I wish they had a least one armed RSO on campus..When they are both fulltime(5 year old, 1/2 day)..maybe I'll pitch myself as one..
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Once again, they go after the tool, the weapon, rather than the root causes of gun violence. Yes, cars pay for roads through gas taxes etc, but in my opinion, equating that with gun owners paying for security that protects EVERYBODY, not just gun owners, is simply apples and oranges.
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It's the way our system works. Everyone pays, SOME people benefit, some don't. There is a specific tax on firearms, ammo, archery equipment and even your fishing gear. 11% excise tax, figured in at the manufacturer's level. Pittman-Roberts act, (if I remember right) dates from the 1920s. The money goes to conservation work, NOT the general fund. Many states hunting and fishing license fees do not go to the general fund, they are specifically for conservation (fish & game) funding. Only a few pay, but all benefit.
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The entire community is who should pay for SRO's, not people who buy guns. Raise the state sales tax half a percent, then everyone is paying for it and that would probably raise more than 22 mil annually.
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Eh I’m torn. I would be ok with it if my state did it. For the guns I buy, it would equate to maybe, MAYBE, 40 bucks a year. I understand the argument saying everyone should foot the bill and not just gun owners... but let’s be honest many gun purchases are luxury purchases. It does suck for the first time gun owner getting a home defense pistol, but we are talking an extra 20 bucks on a 300 dollar purchase. For folks who buy several thousands of dollars worth of new firearms a year? They can swing it.
I still understand the issues raised. And I am sympathetic.
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If you want to pay more taxes, go to your local school sponsored gambling. People pay 100’s a week to play bingo and pull tabs. Whole thing goes to the school as it is run by volunteers.
If you want SRO’s, vote! This is a basic use tax. Somebody has determined that legal gun sales have direct relationship to school shootings, so they need a use tax, like gas taxes....the thing is legal gun sales are completely unrelated to this. Maybe this tax would be better applied to illegal drug sales or the video games, alcohol & cigs the parent who raise these little monsters consume! As you can see, I’m making a bit of a funny, but not much. |
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And simply put, People ARE the root cause. Period. Why isn't it "bullet violence"??? After all, its not the gun that kills or wounds, it's the BULLETS!!! of course, that sound byte sounds even stupider then "gun violence"... In the book of Genesis, Cain murdered Abel with a rock. Whether you believe this is actual history or a religious parable (or both, or neither) doesn't matter, what matters is that afterwards, God did not mark the rock as the murderer, he marked Cain. Blaming guns is the easy way out. It is the LAZY way out. Inanimate objects don't fight for their rights, only some of the owners do, and they (the anti gun bigots) don't consider the voices of "a basket of deplorables", " clinging to their guns and their religion" as something worth listening to.
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Yep they should tax psychotropic drugs and those who dispense them.
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Back to the original OP's point, after reading points in this and other threads, I've softened my stance, and lean at least a "little" more towards the IDEA of taxing a gun to pay for school resource officers. However I still think it should be a tax that EVERYONE pays, not just people who buy guns. I also believe that in gun UN-friendly states, such a tax, by the way it is implemented, will be used to infringe on our 2d disproportionately more and differently than initially intended. It would be the "give them an inch and they take a mile and you'll never get that back" kind of deal.
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You might consider asking those politicians WHY they are ONLY taxing guns?
Why aren't they putting the tax on golf clubs, tennis racquets, sneakers, boats, cars, coffee, jet skis, or any of the OTHER things people buy and use in their lives?? Or, alternately, not tax items, but usage?? Why not put a tax on the cost of every round of golf played in the state?? (for one example). A tax on that, unlike a tax on the purchase of an item, is continuous. OR, add the tax to everyone's phone bill? Or property tax? OR add it to the gas tax, or other existing tax? Doing that would make better economic sense, from the point of view of increasing state revenue. The problem politicians have with doing that is that it doesn't make good political sense. Raising taxes and/or adding new ones makes people unhappy. Make enough people unhappy, and the politician is out of a job. Tax a MINORITY group (gun buyers), one that is not identified, defined, and protected by law, and you upset fewer people. And, then there is the issue that, IF such a tax fails to provide the desired level of money, where does the state get the money to make up the difference?? Suppose they pass it, and spend the money on School Resource Officers (cops), then due to various reasons, people don't buy as many guns in a year as they used to, and the tax money goes down. What then? Raise the tax RATE on the guns we do buy?? Tax something else?? OR, do you think the politicians are going to tell the public that "we have to lay off some of our cops, because people didn't buy enough guns to pay for them!" I'd love to see a politician try that level of honesty!
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Politicians placed very high use taxes on cigarettes to combat our dirty filthy habit and then limited the places we could smoke. Now many smokers have finally quit and the politicians lost all that revenue. So now they want to legalize smoking dope so they can reduce the burden on our jails yet increase again revenue! Say What! I don't get it, smoking is smoking no matter what.
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