The WORST gun for home defense.

C7AR15 · March 14, 2020, 03:53 PM

For home defense we are always reading about this caliber or this gun vs every other gun again and again in the same way; forever.
Where in fact most of them will do the job, more or less.
Now it's time to list guns as the WORST choice your can make.

I'll start off ,

A bolt action rifle in 30-06 , with a 3x-9x power scope.
Too cumbersome, too powerful, slow reloads and impossible to aim indoors.

rickyrick · March 14, 2020, 03:59 PM

Mosin Nagant

BarryLee · March 14, 2020, 04:10 PM

Any gun wrapped in an old sock that never gets shot. Oh and when you hear glass breaking don't forget the ammo is still in the box in another old sock. Good luck!

JERRYS. · March 14, 2020, 04:13 PM

one with a built in lock.

dfwkid · March 14, 2020, 04:14 PM

As an owner of several Mosins, I agree. Any gun that fires a round 3,000 fps is way too much for home defense. Especially the venerable model 1891 which is longer than the common 91/30. Any military surplus would be in that category. An AR-15 with its mild ammo would be a safer alternative.

JERRYS. · March 14, 2020, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dfwkid

As an owner of several Mosins, I agree. Any gun that fires a round 3,000 fps is way too much for home defense. Especially the venerable model 1891 which is longer than the common 91/30. Any military surplus would be in that category. [I]An AR-15 [/I]with its mild ammo would be a safer alternative.

what?

AR15s fire ammo at 3,000+ fps.

pelo801 · March 14, 2020, 06:02 PM

Any carbine length 30-ish cal surplus rifle, bolt or not. Any single shot like a contender. A bolt action shotgun.

TXAZ · March 14, 2020, 06:13 PM

1) Any double barrel weapon endorsed by a presidential candidate.
2) 20mm with APIT round... It's going way past the bad guy and county line.
3) .50 BMG: Unless you're already profoundly deaf in both ears.
4) One you can't easily get to.
5) The one you've never fired, even at the range.
6) Most any rimfire.

reynolds357 · March 14, 2020, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C7AR15

For home defense we are always reading about this caliber or this gun vs every other gun again and again in the same way; forever.
Where in fact most of them will do the job, more or less.
Now it's time to list guns as the WORST choice your can make.

I'll start off ,

A bolt action rifle in 30-06 , with a 3x-9x power scope.
Too cumbersome, too powerful, slow reloads and impossible to aim indoors.

Bolt action 50 BMG.

rickyrick · March 14, 2020, 08:34 PM

I’ll add this

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Warhammer · March 14, 2020, 08:44 PM

Any gun that's not within easy reach and ready to fire.

osbornk · March 15, 2020, 10:16 AM

Any muzzle loader

ernie8 · March 15, 2020, 11:30 AM

105 mm howitzer .

burrhead · March 15, 2020, 12:08 PM

RPG

FrankenMauser · March 15, 2020, 12:30 PM

Plasma rifle in the 50 kW range.

rickyrick · March 15, 2020, 12:54 PM

Well, this has gone off the rails haha

Rail gun

KyJim · March 15, 2020, 02:31 PM

FP-45 Liberator.

Quote:

The FP-45 was a crude, single-shot pistol designed to be cheaply and quickly mass-produced. It had just 23 largely stamped and turned steel parts that were cheap and easy to manufacture. It fired the .45 ACP pistol cartridge from an unrifled barrel. Due to this limitation, it was intended for short range use, 1–4 yards (1–4 m).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FP-45_Liberator

O4L · March 15, 2020, 02:51 PM

One that is unloaded and put away.

Kevin Rohrer · March 15, 2020, 03:42 PM

Any handgun whose caliber does not begin w/ a "4" or larger.

lee n. field · March 15, 2020, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickyrick

Mosin Nagant

This.

Though a Mosin with bayonette fixed would be interesting in a HD situation.

reynolds357 · March 15, 2020, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Rohrer

Any handgun whose caliber does not begin w/ a "4" or larger.

I will take my chances with my FN Five Seven.

Kreyzhorse · March 15, 2020, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Any gun that's not within easy reach and ready to fire.

This...... ^

FrankenMauser · March 15, 2020, 09:40 PM

Armatix P1

ATN082268 · March 15, 2020, 09:44 PM

In general, I'd say the worse home defense guns would probably include the .50 caliber and big game calibers. Not that they wouldn't stop an intruder but the intruder along with a few walls probably wouldn't stop rounds from killing billy Joe Bob a few hundred yards away.

Skans · March 16, 2020, 08:18 AM

I think it would be difficult to use a GE Minigun for self defense, same goes with the Barrett 82A1.

Seriously, I'm not a fan of rifles for home defense. Nor shotguns for that matter. At home defense distances, handguns work nicely. They are easier to conceal, store and get to if necessary. The reason I don't like shotguns is that they could make a real mess of your home, especially with the shorter barrel HD 12 gauge guns.

I personally prefer 9mm and 10mm handguns. 10mm for old farts who's hearing is already shot.

March 14, 2020, 03:53 PM	#1
C7AR15 Senior Member Join Date: April 24, 2011 Location: Burnaby Posts: 260	The WORST gun for home defense. For home defense we are always reading about this caliber or this gun vs every other gun again and again in the same way; forever. Where in fact most of them will do the job, more or less. Now it's time to list guns as the WORST choice your can make. I'll start off , A bolt action rifle in 30-06 , with a 3x-9x power scope. Too cumbersome, too powerful, slow reloads and impossible to aim indoors.

March 14, 2020, 04:10 PM	#3
BarryLee Senior Member Join Date: July 29, 2010 Location: The ATL (OTP) Posts: 3,946	Any gun wrapped in an old sock that never gets shot. Oh and when you hear glass breaking don't forget the ammo is still in the box in another old sock. Good luck! __________________ A major source of objection to a free economy is precisely that it ... gives people what they want instead of what a particular group thinks they ought to want. Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

March 14, 2020, 06:13 PM	#8
TXAZ Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2010 Location: McMurdo Sound Texas Posts: 4,322	1) Any double barrel weapon endorsed by a presidential candidate. 2) 20mm with APIT round... It's going way past the bad guy and county line. 3) .50 BMG: Unless you're already profoundly deaf in both ears. 4) One you can't easily get to. 5) The one you've never fired, even at the range. 6) Most any rimfire. __________________ Cave illos in guns et backhoes

March 15, 2020, 12:08 PM	#14
burrhead Senior Member Join Date: July 6, 1999 Location: Chihuahuan desert, Texas Posts: 1,148	RPG __________________ Join the GOA, SAF and the TSRA I'm offended by people that are easily offended.

March 15, 2020, 12:30 PM	#15
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,423	Plasma rifle in the 50 kW range. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

March 14, 2020, 03:59 PM	#2
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,236	Mosin Nagant

March 14, 2020, 04:13 PM	#4
JERRYS. Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,968	one with a built in lock.

March 14, 2020, 04:14 PM	#5
dfwkid Member Join Date: September 29, 2017 Location: Like the name says: DFW Posts: 26	As an owner of several Mosins, I agree. Any gun that fires a round 3,000 fps is way too much for home defense. Especially the venerable model 1891 which is longer than the common 91/30. Any military surplus would be in that category. An AR-15 with its mild ammo would be a safer alternative.

March 14, 2020, 06:02 PM	#7
pelo801 Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2009 Posts: 718	Any carbine length 30-ish cal surplus rifle, bolt or not. Any single shot like a contender. A bolt action shotgun.

March 14, 2020, 08:34 PM	#10
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,236	I’ll add this Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

March 14, 2020, 08:44 PM	#11
Warhammer Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2009 Location: North Texas Posts: 163	Any gun that's not within easy reach and ready to fire.

March 15, 2020, 10:16 AM	#12
osbornk Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2012 Location: Mountains of Appalachia Posts: 1,598	Any muzzle loader

March 15, 2020, 11:30 AM	#13
ernie8 Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2018 Posts: 217	105 mm howitzer .

March 15, 2020, 12:54 PM	#16
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,236	Well, this has gone off the rails haha Rail gun

March 15, 2020, 02:51 PM	#18
O4L Senior Member Join Date: September 16, 2015 Posts: 646	One that is unloaded and put away.

March 15, 2020, 03:42 PM	#19
Kevin Rohrer Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2010 Location: Medina, Ohio Posts: 1,049	Any handgun whose caliber does not begin w/ a "4" or larger. __________________ Member: Orange Gunsite Family, NRA--Life, ARTCA, and American Legion. Caveat Emptor: Cavery Grips/AmericanGripz/Prestige Grips/Stealth Grips from Clayton, NC. He is a scammer

March 15, 2020, 09:40 PM	#23
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,423	Armatix P1 __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

March 15, 2020, 09:44 PM	#24
ATN082268 Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2013 Posts: 975	In general, I'd say the worse home defense guns would probably include the .50 caliber and big game calibers. Not that they wouldn't stop an intruder but the intruder along with a few walls probably wouldn't stop rounds from killing billy Joe Bob a few hundred yards away.

March 16, 2020, 08:18 AM	#25
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	I think it would be difficult to use a GE Minigun for self defense, same goes with the Barrett 82A1. Seriously, I'm not a fan of rifles for home defense. Nor shotguns for that matter. At home defense distances, handguns work nicely. They are easier to conceal, store and get to if necessary. The reason I don't like shotguns is that they could make a real mess of your home, especially with the shorter barrel HD 12 gauge guns. I personally prefer 9mm and 10mm handguns. 10mm for old farts who's hearing is already shot.

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