Which HD Shotgun

smokepole14 · January 16, 2017, 03:19 PM

I'm looking to get a home defense shotgun to keep bedside. The three models I'm looking at are maverick 88, pardner pump, or savage 320. I'm aware that the pardner and savage are made in China an the maverick assembled in us with Mexico parts. Does anybody who owns one of the three have any suggestions. So far the only negative I've heard is the pardner has a part internally welded in so if it breaks basically your out of luck and a gunsmith will have to fix it. Just looking for any help from you guys.

jonnyc · January 16, 2017, 03:22 PM

I have 2 Mav. 88s that I have for HD and trap. Lots of use and never a problem with either. Under $200 each at W-Mart.

ThomasT · January 16, 2017, 03:27 PM

You might try this post in the shotgun forum. I have no idea what shotguns you are talking about.

Erno86 · January 16, 2017, 03:30 PM

I like short barrel shotguns for home defense, which makes it less easier for an opponent to grab onto.

Blindstitch · January 16, 2017, 04:08 PM

The maverick comes from the 60 year old Mossberg 500 design and it will get the job done.

Ever think of buying used since a bedside gun probably will never get used depending on where you are. I've seen used mossberg 500's averaging $150.

smokepole14 · January 16, 2017, 04:15 PM

I never considered a used gun. I didn't really think about it, since it's more than likely never gonna get used I was looking in the budget range.

Blindstitch · January 16, 2017, 04:38 PM

Maybe something like this.
http://www.armslist.com/posts/629833...tgun-for-sale-

http://www.armslist.com/posts/605665...berg-500a-12ga

There's even a good priced maverick.
http://www.armslist.com/posts/604503...rg-maverick-88

Screwball · January 16, 2017, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by smokepole14

I never considered a used gun. I didn't really think about it, since it's more than likely never gonna get used I was looking in the budget range.

I would consider a used Mossberg, Remington, or Ithaca.

Don't get me wrong, buying new is great. But if you are getting something cheap that doesn't have the resources behind it, if something does go wrong with it, you are less likely going to find someone local to get it running again. A common design mean gunsmith experience and a source of parts.

Snyper · January 16, 2017, 05:37 PM

I'd look around for a used Rem 870 Express.

MarkCO · January 16, 2017, 05:47 PM

The 88s seem to have a good following.

Virginian · January 16, 2017, 05:56 PM

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I would consider a used Mossberg, Remington, or Ithaca.

Don't get me wrong, buying new is great. But if you are getting something cheap that doesn't have the resources behind it, if something does go wrong with it, you are less likely going to find someone local to get it running again. A common design mean gunsmith experience and a source of parts.

I agree with this, sans the Ithaca for HD. Practically anyone can replace parts - if it's ever needed - on a Mossberg or Remington, but an old Ithaca may need an honest to goodness gunsmith. Also a single round reload is much easier with a side load.

Rothdel · January 16, 2017, 06:12 PM

88 is solid. I believe (sold mine a bit ago) it has a plastic trigger assembly and if it breaks your done. No different than the 500's in that respect though and they are good quality.

I have handled the other two but the 88 is the only one I have owned/shot and I would have no problem putting money on one again if I had a need.

Ended up getting an 870 from a family member so did not need the 88 so one had to go.

shootbrownelk · January 16, 2017, 07:17 PM

Look around some gun shops for a used Remington wingmaster. I've seen some in pawn shops for around $250-$300. The older 870's were much better in parts and workmanship than the cast parts filled express models of today.

Model12Win · January 16, 2017, 08:25 PM

Saiga 12 is the best you can get, one that's been worked over for reliability.

jmr40 · January 16, 2017, 08:29 PM

Lotsa used 870's and 500's out there. That is the direction I'd be looking

Omaha-BeenGlockin · January 16, 2017, 08:48 PM

The new wood stocked 870 Express tactical ---or whatever its called----seems really nice.

https://www.remington.com/shotguns/p...d-home-defense

Screwball · January 16, 2017, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Virginian

Also a single round reload is much easier with a side load.

It is pretty much identical, just invert the gun...

I lump Ithacas with the other two, being they are all work horses. You find an old department gun, you'll likely get a nice gun at a great price.

I will also say that working on an Ithaca is far from hard.

Kvon2 · January 16, 2017, 08:50 PM

My HD shotgun is a maverick 88. I just bought it a few months ago but I have had zero problems with it.

I love that it has dual extractors and the safety location. IMO it takes those two features (what I consider the best parts of the 500 and 870) and combines them for a lower price.

osbornk · January 16, 2017, 08:55 PM

Based on what I have read and owning one of their products, for HD, I think I would get the RIA M5. http://armscor.com/firearms/shotgun-...-matte-nickel/

RoughDivider · January 16, 2017, 11:01 PM

I wouldn't worry too much about the polymer trigger assembly, mossy 500 is polymer and there are tons of them, just buy an extra to have on hand if it bothers you. I prefer 18.5" barrels and longer magazine tubes for HD so I got myself a 500 mostly because of the tang safety, and it was on sale.

Slopemeno · January 17, 2017, 12:28 AM

My Mossberg 500's plastic trigger housing is now 36 years old.

smokepole14 · January 17, 2017, 07:41 AM

I like the RIA m5. I didn't realize they made a home defense shotgun. That action sure looks smooth.

Slopemeno · January 17, 2017, 11:10 AM

Is the barrel removable on the RIA?

Virginian · January 17, 2017, 05:22 PM

The plastic safeties are a bigger liability than a polymer trigger group housing.

osbornk · January 17, 2017, 05:36 PM

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Is the barrel removable on the RIA?

I don't think so. It is a dedicated gun. I chose a Mossberg 500 with 2 barrels and 4 choke tubes for it because I wanted it for multiple uses.

January 16, 2017, 03:19 PM	#1
smokepole14 Member Join Date: March 20, 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 56	Which HD Shotgun I'm looking to get a home defense shotgun to keep bedside. The three models I'm looking at are maverick 88, pardner pump, or savage 320. I'm aware that the pardner and savage are made in China an the maverick assembled in us with Mexico parts. Does anybody who owns one of the three have any suggestions. So far the only negative I've heard is the pardner has a part internally welded in so if it breaks basically your out of luck and a gunsmith will have to fix it. Just looking for any help from you guys. __________________ Neemo: So if you want these horses, I sell them to you. Did you bring some gold with you? John Chisum No. Neemo: Silver? John Chisum: Just lead!

January 16, 2017, 03:22 PM	#2
jonnyc Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2009 Location: PA Posts: 1,731	I have 2 Mav. 88s that I have for HD and trap. Lots of use and never a problem with either. Under $200 each at W-Mart. __________________ 2024 PA Cartridge Collector Show; Aug. 16-17, 2024!!! Buy...Sell...Trade All Types of Ammunition & Ordnance PM or email me for 2024 show details.

January 16, 2017, 03:30 PM	#4
Erno86 Senior Member Join Date: September 22, 2012 Location: Marriottsville, Maryland Posts: 1,739	I like short barrel shotguns for home defense, which makes it less easier for an opponent to grab onto. __________________ That rifle hanging on the wall of the working class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." --- George Orwell

January 16, 2017, 04:15 PM	#6
smokepole14 Member Join Date: March 20, 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 56	I never considered a used gun. I didn't really think about it, since it's more than likely never gonna get used I was looking in the budget range. __________________ Neemo: So if you want these horses, I sell them to you. Did you bring some gold with you? John Chisum No. Neemo: Silver? John Chisum: Just lead!

January 16, 2017, 05:37 PM	#9
Snyper Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2013 Location: Eastern NC Posts: 3,047	I'd look around for a used Rem 870 Express. __________________ One shot, one kill

January 16, 2017, 03:27 PM	#3
ThomasT Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,753	You might try this post in the shotgun forum. I have no idea what shotguns you are talking about.

January 16, 2017, 04:08 PM	#5
Blindstitch Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2013 Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 2,692	The maverick comes from the 60 year old Mossberg 500 design and it will get the job done. Ever think of buying used since a bedside gun probably will never get used depending on where you are. I've seen used mossberg 500's averaging $150.

January 16, 2017, 04:38 PM	#7
Blindstitch Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2013 Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 2,692	Maybe something like this. http://www.armslist.com/posts/629833...tgun-for-sale- http://www.armslist.com/posts/605665...berg-500a-12ga There's even a good priced maverick. http://www.armslist.com/posts/604503...rg-maverick-88

January 16, 2017, 05:47 PM	#10
MarkCO Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 1998 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 4,307	The 88s seem to have a good following. __________________ Good Shooting, MarkCO www.CarbonArms.us

January 16, 2017, 06:12 PM	#12
Rothdel Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2015 Posts: 190	88 is solid. I believe (sold mine a bit ago) it has a plastic trigger assembly and if it breaks your done. No different than the 500's in that respect though and they are good quality. I have handled the other two but the 88 is the only one I have owned/shot and I would have no problem putting money on one again if I had a need. Ended up getting an 870 from a family member so did not need the 88 so one had to go.

January 16, 2017, 07:17 PM	#13
shootbrownelk Senior Member Join Date: August 27, 2013 Location: Wyoming Posts: 329	Look around some gun shops for a used Remington wingmaster. I've seen some in pawn shops for around $250-$300. The older 870's were much better in parts and workmanship than the cast parts filled express models of today.

January 16, 2017, 08:25 PM	#14
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Saiga 12 is the best you can get, one that's been worked over for reliability.

January 16, 2017, 08:29 PM	#15
jmr40 Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 10,805	Lotsa used 870's and 500's out there. That is the direction I'd be looking __________________ "If you're still doing things the same way you were doing them 10 years ago, you're doing it wrong" Winston Churchill

January 16, 2017, 08:48 PM	#16
Omaha-BeenGlockin Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2001 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 1,183	The new wood stocked 870 Express tactical ---or whatever its called----seems really nice. https://www.remington.com/shotguns/p...d-home-defense __________________ I take the leech that's bleeding me Can't stop to save my soul I take the leash that's leading me -------Metallica

January 16, 2017, 08:50 PM	#18
Kvon2 Senior Member Join Date: January 4, 2016 Posts: 757	My HD shotgun is a maverick 88. I just bought it a few months ago but I have had zero problems with it. I love that it has dual extractors and the safety location. IMO it takes those two features (what I consider the best parts of the 500 and 870) and combines them for a lower price.

January 16, 2017, 08:55 PM	#19
osbornk Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2012 Location: Mountains of Appalachia Posts: 1,598	Based on what I have read and owning one of their products, for HD, I think I would get the RIA M5. http://armscor.com/firearms/shotgun-...-matte-nickel/

January 16, 2017, 11:01 PM	#20
RoughDivider Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2014 Location: Collierville, TN Posts: 152	I wouldn't worry too much about the polymer trigger assembly, mossy 500 is polymer and there are tons of them, just buy an extra to have on hand if it bothers you. I prefer 18.5" barrels and longer magazine tubes for HD so I got myself a 500 mostly because of the tang safety, and it was on sale.

January 17, 2017, 12:28 AM	#21
Slopemeno Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2007 Posts: 2,663	My Mossberg 500's plastic trigger housing is now 36 years old.

January 17, 2017, 07:41 AM	#22
smokepole14 Member Join Date: March 20, 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 56	I like the RIA m5. I didn't realize they made a home defense shotgun. That action sure looks smooth. __________________ Neemo: So if you want these horses, I sell them to you. Did you bring some gold with you? John Chisum No. Neemo: Silver? John Chisum: Just lead!

January 17, 2017, 11:10 AM	#23
Slopemeno Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2007 Posts: 2,663	Is the barrel removable on the RIA?

January 17, 2017, 05:22 PM	#24
Virginian Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2012 Location: Williamsburg, Va. Posts: 1,528	The plastic safeties are a bigger liability than a polymer trigger group housing. __________________ What could have happened... did.