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[Tom Servo]

I really wanted this to go to the conviction phase so his attorneys could challenge the constitutionality of it. Bummer.

It's within his power to do this. But what I find really odd is that it's retroactive for the last decade, and it covers ANY crime he committed or MIGHT HAVE committed. That's incredibly vague and broad, and that's the part that makes me suspicious.

The Constitution doesn't give any limits on pardon power, but maybe it's time we review that.

(Bonus points for announcing it on a Sunday night, then taking off for Angola where he won't have to face the press.)

[44 AMP]

I don't think they are ALL liars.

Wasn't it Henry Kissinger who said something like "the 5 percent of politicians who actually are honest give the rest of us a bad name!"

I think he meant it as a joke, but perhaps he was lying??

[rc]

I said back on June 12th,

"Old Joe said he intends to respect the legal system and is not considering a pardon for his son but I think Joe says a lot of things that simply are not true. He will pardon Hunter for everything he ever did since childhood as soon as the votes are cast and the poles are closed. Maybe he'll even pardon his brother and himself. Joe has a habit of doing the opposite of what he tells us."

My very accurate prediction does not mean I'm psychic! I have been watching democrats tell me they support the constitution and rule of law while trying to destroy our civil rights for over 30 years. I have watched Bill Clinton swear up and down he didn't have "relations" with Monica only to have his stain all over her blue dress. I have seen Joe Biden lie about what he would do to our energy industry and at the border as president before the 2020 election only to reverse himself on day 1. I have seen Joe do the opposite so many times, predicting he would reverse himself was a forgone conclusion. It may have been that Kamala was supposed to do it, but she failed to buy the popular vote with a billion dollar spending spree!

[Brian Pfleuger]

Originally Posted by 44 AMP

I don't think they are ALL liars.

Wasn't it Henry Kissinger who said something like "the 5 percent of politicians who actually are honest give the rest of us a bad name!"

I think he meant it as a joke, but perhaps he was lying??

Maybe some of them are so naive or stupid that they believe what they're saying is true?

Sort of like a kindergartener running for class president, saying there will be cookies for lunch every day. They think they can do it, all the kids believe it, everyone older than 5 knows it's not going to happen.

That's a fairly apt description of the American political system.

I don't know though. I've seen a few people run for President that I thought maybe were honest, good people... they never made it past the first debates.
5 percent would be about 4.999....% higher than I would guess.

I really believe that honesty and integrity are the fundamental issue with guaranteeing our rights. These people don't care what is "right", they care what benefits them. As long as that is true, We The People are no more than pawns in their Machiavellian chess game.

[tangolima]

Just wondering. Can a president pardon a person charged with / convicted of crime committed on state level?

-TL

PS. Chatgpt says no. I think the same too. He can only commute federal crimes. So Biden junior may still be charged with state crimes. It will need a governor to cut him loose.

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[natman]

Originally Posted by tangolima

Just wondering. Can a president pardon a person charged with / convicted of crime committed on state level?

-TL

PS. Chatgpt says no. I think the same too. He can only commute federal crimes. So Biden junior may still be charged with state crimes. It will need a governor to cut him loose.

No. However, both the tax issues and gun issues are federal crimes. I'm not aware of any state charges pending.

[tangolima]

Originally Posted by natman

No. However, both the tax issues and gun issues are federal crimes. I'm not aware of any state charges pending.

None pending. Federal and state usually don't overlap. But it is still a possibility. Say state weapon charges in different forms etc.

-TL

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[44 AMP]

Just wondering. Can a president pardon a person charged with / convicted of crime committed on state level?

This makes me think of another question, similar, but not identical. Can the President pardon /commute someone being held in contempt of Congress??

I can easily see the President's authority over things the Justice Dept does, or the military as the President is head of the Executive Branch and the Commander in Chief of the military.

But, doe the Pres have legal authority to pardon/commute someone charged and held by Congress??

[zukiphile]

But, doe the Pres have legal authority to pardon/commute someone charged and held by Congress??

Those people would be prosecuted and imprisoned by the exec branch.

Steve Bannon served a sentence for exactly that. Roger Stone was pardoned following prosecution for his responses to a congressional investigation.

[1972RedNeck]

If there is a lesson to be taken from this, as it related to law and civil rights, it is that there are only two types of politicians.

Those telling lies you want to believe.
Those telling lies you're glad not to believe.

I tend to agree, but there are exceptions. Matt Rosendale is a good example. 100% straight shooter.

But he didn't run for reelection because of threats against his family.