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Old April 9, 2021, 03:29 PM   #26
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No. 3

I would like very much to have a Ruger No. 3 in the Hornet or .223. I've actually had one of each in my hands, but the asking prices, even 10 years ago, were phenomenal.
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Old April 9, 2021, 05:27 PM   #27
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I'm down to two Ruger No.3's a .22 Hornet and a .45-70. Pretty much covers everything from mice to moose.

Outstanding (and adjustable) triggers, very accurate, short, light and handy, the only complaint I ever had with any of them is the stock could be better shaped.
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Old April 10, 2021, 09:13 AM   #28
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A friend has what we call a No 2.
He bought it as a No 3 K Hornet with the stock rather roughly checkered, stained dark, finished shiny.
He never got the accuracy he wanted, so he had it rechambered .223. I know that will get some people's knickers in a rifling twist but he loads varmint bullets and it shoots better than as a K Hornet.
Then he saw a set of No 1 wood at a gun show, so he bought and installed that. He cut the curl off the lever because it was too close to the pistol grip and now has a Sharps style lever.
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Old April 10, 2021, 11:52 AM   #29
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I like single shots because they are self loaders. I’ve been selling off my horde because of health. I’m only keeping family heirlooms. I just sold 44mg & 45/70 #3s. That leaves me with two in 375Win ( legal deer gun here in Ohio ) and a 223 my wife bought me for Christmas back in 70s. I have one Rem RB barreled to 22rf and a Savage 219 in 22 Hornet left. Not counting some run of the mill 22 bolt action SSs. The #3 45/70 was uncomfortable to shoot. I also had #1 in 45/70 and it wasn’t as bad as the Marlin 1895 I have now.
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Old April 11, 2021, 01:40 PM   #30
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My No.3 in .45-70 had a nice thick recoil pad on it when I got it. It's comfortable to shoot with factory loads (BP levels).

It will also handle 350gr JSP slugs at 2200fps.

Shooting those, you've left comfort behind, last week!
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Old April 11, 2021, 02:46 PM   #31
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My No.3 in .45-70 had a nice thick recoil pad on it when I got it. It's comfortable to shoot with factory loads (BP levels).

It will also handle 350gr JSP slugs at 2200fps.

Shooting those, you've left comfort behind, last week!
I had a #3 in .375 Winchester which I modified to have a thick rubber recoil pad. My intention was to use it exclusively with my home-cast heavy bullets for deer. I planed on shooting a Michigan deer through the ribs (heart), to see how well it worked. However, my brother had requested I shoot a "meat deer" for him and when I saw a six-point, not wanting to have any meat distruction, I shot it in the head...therefore, there was no chance to evaluate that cartridge/bullet/gun combination.
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Old April 12, 2021, 05:00 PM   #32
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I find repeaters to be more efficient.
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Old April 13, 2021, 06:04 AM   #33
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Any rifle can easily become a single-shot...just load one round. I use to hunt with a bolt action and only one shot, when hunting varmints. Some times, when hunting with another guy, for safety, I'd just put the cartridge in the magazine, but it could become available by quickly operating the bolt, should we have seen a fox, or other moving game. It's almost as quick as flicking off the safety.
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Old April 13, 2021, 08:45 AM   #34
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I often hunt deer with a 50 caliber CVA modern muzzle-loader but don't feel handicapped at all. It shoots accurately well beyond 100 yards and hits hard.

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Old April 19, 2021, 10:31 AM   #35
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Savage 219 .22 Hornet

Here is a Savage 219 in .22 Hornet recently acquired. Someone did a unique engraving job on it. I milled a scope base and drilled and tapped the barrel for it.
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Old April 26, 2021, 09:59 AM   #36
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I own 8 h&r/nef single shots. I'm a handloader so for me it's alot easier to keep up with brass. I prefer ejectors to extractors because they are much faster to reload, and the brass is easy to catch as it ejects.

As a side note I own plenty of semi autos and pumps as well. But most of the time I prefer single shots.
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Old April 26, 2021, 11:15 AM   #37
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As for the debate on a single shot promoting marksmanship, I have to side with the OP. I understand that focus on fundamentals, and not how many shots are available, is what improves marksmanship. At the same time, when training my daughters to shoot using a marlin model 60, that temptation to pull the trigger again if the first shot went awry was definitely there. My oldest daughter, who is 16 and now a phenomenal shooter, was very quickly converted to loading one round at a time when she first started shooting. An hour of that and no misses on a series of shots, and then I let her load 3 rounds at a time. After a month or two and a few range sessions, she was making every shot using iron sights on a small coffee can at 100 yards when she was 9 years old. I finally let her fill up the tube with a warning that we would go back to single loading if she started shooting faster than she could make hits. She nearly lost her 9 year old patience with me a few times, but she is a great shooter today.

FWIW, I was given a single shot .22 by a neighbor that I plan on training my youngest daughter on. And to train the grandkids.
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Old April 26, 2021, 05:38 PM   #38
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MOST of them are less accurate than a bolt gun.
Some single shots ARE bolt guns... I have one, an FWB .22 match rifle.
I have had a love affair with single shots for decades and own quite a few.
Flintlocks...Lyman GPR, a CVA carbine, two fowlers
Two T/C Contenders and a bunch of barrels.
A T/C Encore and another bunch of barrels.
A Stevens Favorite
A Martini-Cadet.
A Martini-Henry.
A Ruger #1 Tropical
A Trapdoor Carbine.
A Browning BT-99
A Browning BPCR
An H&R 45-70
And probably a few that I am forgetting.
Yeah, I like them.
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Old May 7, 2021, 09:12 PM   #39
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My New England Handi rifle is one of my favorites, also my least expensive firearm.
It's the older style with click adjust steel sights and ejectors instead of extractors.
$135 for the 30-30 rifle, $65 each for the factory fitted 357 and 410 barrels. ( the 90's)

Very muzzle heavy, but I shoot it off hand standing better than my rimfire rifles.
The 30-30 will do 1.5 moa with several loads.
The 357 is more like 2" to 2-1/2" at 100 with a good, stiff magnum load.

My 357 barrel is my favorite plinker, magnum loads get a nice speed boost, light loads are nice and quiet. Deadly accurate off hand inside 50 yards.
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Old May 9, 2021, 07:03 AM   #40
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My brother had a Rem 514, which he left to me when he left for college. I liked the little rifle and had a 4X Mossberg scope mounted on it by a gunsmith (drilled and tapped) when I was 15. I shot many .22 shorts in it and belled the chamber of the soft-steel barrel, so long rifle ammo wouldn't eject anymore. Other than that, it was quite accurate, though I don't recall ever shooting at a target from a bench. We shot in gravel pits and always saved soup cans for that (never glass, except at open burning dumps). We certainly got the $25 cost out of that little gun and I always had a soft spot in my heart for Remingtons after that...maybe even softer than the barrel steel. LOL

One of the best things about a single-shot is that you always go "full-auto" every time you pull the trigger!

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Old May 9, 2021, 06:19 PM   #41
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My singles are an original 1873 Springfield, 1885 Miroku Winchester, and an 1863 Sharps Italian repro. I load real BP in all of them.
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Old May 9, 2021, 07:54 PM   #42
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i, don,t think shooting .22 shorts will bell the chamber, it may lead the crap out of the chamber. have a gunsmith give it a good cleaning, maybe even running a .22 chambering reamer in it.
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Old May 9, 2021, 08:26 PM   #43
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Forgot my 22lr CZ 452 Scout. Superb accuracy for very nice price. (Payed more for the scope)
It will accept mags, but starts as a single shot.

I would really like to add a Henry steel single in .44 Rem Mag. I have .44 components with no home.
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