Shertz, Texas gunfight video

darkgael · September 17, 2008, 10:43 AM

Have you seen this video? I did a search and it did not show up. It seems to me that it would be worth a look on this forum. I posted it also in a Crimson Trace thread since the officer involved was supposedly using a laser equipped pistol.
Patrol car video. Pretty scary footage. The P.O. did well.
Pete
http://www.thegunzone.com/mos/schertz.html

Keltyke · September 17, 2008, 01:39 PM

Hard to see the LASER, but the LEO done good, getting off a full mag while under heavy fire and scoring 3 hits. Too bad he didn't off the perp.

Erik · September 17, 2008, 01:42 PM

"The P.O. did well."

Indeed. It is a very good day when you bring a pistol to a rifle fight and win.

SGT-MILLER · September 17, 2008, 05:46 PM

I say good job to the Police Officer. I congratulate him for maintaining his cool under that extreme pressure.

grymster2007 · September 17, 2008, 07:01 PM

Glad the officer is OK, but I'm shocked that no one else was injured or killed on that busy highway.

SGT-MILLER · September 17, 2008, 09:20 PM

Pretty scary to look at the condition of his patrol car afterwards.

Looks like something you'd see in a warzone.

Casimer · September 17, 2008, 09:35 PM

OT: Are the doors of police vehicles typically armored in any way?

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but the LEO done good, getting off a full mag while under heavy fire and scoring 3 hits

That's pretty impressive + the fact that he held his ground rather than running and potentially drawing fire towards civilians.

dabigguns357 · September 19, 2008, 07:51 PM

Scary to think of and glad the b/g is in jail.I also will also add my comments to the other posts.Who in their right mind would call and any traffic stop routine,the only routine things cops do is walk out their front doors after that it could all go from sugar to s@#$ in 2.5 seconds.Sorry for the rant but i do hate that comment.

Stevie-Ray · September 19, 2008, 09:20 PM

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Who in their right mind would call and any traffic stop routine Sorry for the rant but i do hate that comment.

I think they only mean that they chase, hit their lights, and the suspect pulls over like he should. They then expect normal behavior, otherwise the suspect would run. That's why it seems to be a routine traffic stop.

I don't blame cops for expecting normal behavior when all indications are in the green, as long as they don't let their guard down completely. This guy did better than OK.

**JohnKSa** · September 20, 2008, 02:27 AM

Off Topic posts deleted. L&P is closed, this is T&T.

B. Lahey · September 20, 2008, 02:38 AM

Holy crapola.

Whoever trained that cop should be extremely proud. Not many opportunities for monday morning quarterbacking with this incident.

pax · September 20, 2008, 11:34 AM

To be utterly clear: any further posting of off topic posts in this thread will result in a ban. This isn't L&P, and won't become so.

pax

vox rationis · September 20, 2008, 01:43 PM

Very impressive job by the Officer!

Lavid2002 · September 20, 2008, 02:27 PM

Great job officer Glad to see your safe

pax · September 20, 2008, 02:32 PM

I thought it was interesting how the officer commented that the training he'd received told him not to get back inside the vehicle. Pretty sure that would be difficult to avoid doing under the circumstances, since it would "feel like" cover and since that's where the bigger radio is located. You'd have to pretty much force yourself not to do it, against instincts telling you otherwise.

Instead, he took shelter behind the vehicle, returning fire as he went.

The wisdom of that approach, and the reason for that training not to get back in the vehicle, was shown in a brief camera shot near the end of the video. Note how there is a tight cluster of rifle holes in the windshield which are absolutely centered upon the driver's seat. If he'd sheltered there, he'd be dead.

pax

Brit · September 20, 2008, 03:07 PM

To hit him 3 times meant he used his sights, or the laser, not sure if the laser would show well in all that light show? Hope he bought a Lottery Ticket the next day, before his luck changed!

He was smart to fire one handed while retreating to cover.

GetYerShells · October 13, 2008, 04:26 AM

I have to say that I am very impressed with the Schertz PD. When I took my CCW class, one of the members of the Scherts PD was there as an assistant instructor. I have seen this video and am always impressed with the good training this LEO brought to the fight. The Schertz PD now has several of their officers qualified and liscensed to carry full auto Glocks with Crimson Trace laser grips.

Hornett · October 13, 2008, 01:19 PM

The location of the holes in the vehicle seems to show that the BG didn't know exactly where the officer was either.

September 17, 2008, 10:43 AM	#1
darkgael Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2006 Location: Homes in Brooklyn, NY and in Pennsylvania. Posts: 5,473	Shertz, Texas gunfight video Have you seen this video? I did a search and it did not show up. It seems to me that it would be worth a look on this forum. I posted it also in a Crimson Trace thread since the officer involved was supposedly using a laser equipped pistol. Patrol car video. Pretty scary footage. The P.O. did well. Pete http://www.thegunzone.com/mos/schertz.html

September 17, 2008, 01:42 PM	#3
Erik Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 1999 Location: America Posts: 3,479	"The P.O. did well." Indeed. It is a very good day when you bring a pistol to a rifle fight and win. __________________ Meriam Webster's: Main Entry: ci·vil·ian Pronunciation: \sə-ˈvil-yən also -ˈvi-yən\, Function: noun, Date: 14th century, 1: a specialist in Roman or modern civil law, 2 a: one not on active duty in the armed services or not on a police or firefighting force b: outsider 1, — civilian adjective

September 17, 2008, 07:01 PM	#5
grymster2007 Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: In the oak studded hills near Napa Posts: 2,203	Glad the officer is OK, but I'm shocked that no one else was injured or killed on that busy highway. __________________ grym

September 20, 2008, 02:27 AM	#10
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,986	Off Topic posts deleted. L&P is closed, this is T&T. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

September 20, 2008, 11:34 AM	#12
pax Senior Member Join Date: May 16, 2000 Location: In a state of flux Posts: 7,520	To be utterly clear: any further posting of off topic posts in this thread *will* result in a ban. This isn't L&P, and won't become so. pax __________________ Kathy Jackson My personal website: Cornered Cat

September 17, 2008, 01:39 PM	#2
Keltyke Junior member Join Date: April 6, 2008 Location: Spartanburg, SC Posts: 2,933	Hard to see the LASER, but the LEO done good, getting off a full mag while under heavy fire and scoring 3 hits. Too bad he didn't off the perp.

September 17, 2008, 05:46 PM	#4
SGT-MILLER Member Join Date: September 16, 2008 Posts: 67	I say good job to the Police Officer. I congratulate him for maintaining his cool under that extreme pressure.

September 17, 2008, 09:20 PM	#6
SGT-MILLER Member Join Date: September 16, 2008 Posts: 67	Pretty scary to look at the condition of his patrol car afterwards. Looks like something you'd see in a warzone.

September 19, 2008, 07:51 PM	#8
dabigguns357 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2008 Location: Ona,West Virginia Posts: 1,215	Scary to think of and glad the b/g is in jail.I also will also add my comments to the other posts.Who in their right mind would call and any traffic stop routine,the only routine things cops do is walk out their front doors after that it could all go from sugar to s@#$ in 2.5 seconds.Sorry for the rant but i do hate that comment.

September 20, 2008, 02:38 AM	#11
B. Lahey Senior Member Join Date: March 17, 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,857	Holy crapola. Whoever trained that cop should be extremely proud. Not many opportunities for monday morning quarterbacking with this incident.

September 20, 2008, 01:43 PM	#13
vox rationis Senior Member Join Date: April 15, 2007 Posts: 1,855	Very impressive job by the Officer!

September 20, 2008, 02:27 PM	#14
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	Great job officer Glad to see your safe __________________ Math>Grammar

September 20, 2008, 02:32 PM	#15
pax Senior Member Join Date: May 16, 2000 Location: In a state of flux Posts: 7,520	I thought it was interesting how the officer commented that the training he'd received told him not to get back inside the vehicle. Pretty sure that would be difficult to avoid doing under the circumstances, since it would "feel like" cover and since that's where the bigger radio is located. You'd have to pretty much force yourself not to do it, against instincts telling you otherwise. Instead, he took shelter behind the vehicle, returning fire as he went. The wisdom of that approach, and the reason for that training not to get back in the vehicle, was shown in a brief camera shot near the end of the video. Note how there is a tight cluster of rifle holes in the windshield which are absolutely centered upon the driver's seat. If he'd sheltered there, he'd be dead. pax __________________ Kathy Jackson My personal website: Cornered Cat

September 20, 2008, 03:07 PM	#16
Brit Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2005 Location: Orlando FL Posts: 1,934	Used his sights! To hit him 3 times meant he used his sights, or the laser, not sure if the laser would show well in all that light show? Hope he bought a Lottery Ticket the next day, before his luck changed! He was smart to fire one handed while retreating to cover.

October 13, 2008, 04:26 AM	#17
GetYerShells Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 118	I have to say that I am very impressed with the Schertz PD. When I took my CCW class, one of the members of the Scherts PD was there as an assistant instructor. I have seen this video and am always impressed with the good training this LEO brought to the fight. The Schertz PD now has several of their officers qualified and liscensed to carry full auto Glocks with Crimson Trace laser grips. __________________ Sig P226 .40, Mossberg 500 Persuader, Springfield 1911 GI, M91/30

October 13, 2008, 01:19 PM	#18
Hornett Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2006 Posts: 569	The location of the holes in the vehicle seems to show that the BG didn't know exactly where the officer was either. __________________ Guns don't kill people, Jack Bauer kills people.