M16A4 Clone Trigger Opinion

'88Scrat · December 31, 2020, 04:52 PM

Need some opinions. I have an FN Military Collector M16 that I topped with an ACOG to make the rifle as close as I can to a USMC M16A4. The only thing missing is the giggle switch, but it's as close as I can legally make it. It looks awesome!

That said the USGI trigger is...

uh...

serviceable...

All my other ARs have upgraded triggers so when I shoot it I REALLY notice the difference. I kinda want to drop a Giessle trigger into it but feel that kind of defeats the purpose of being a clone. That said there would be no cosmetic difference.

Whatcha think?

DMK · December 31, 2020, 06:04 PM

If I was going to buy a 1967 GTO, I sure as heck would put modern radials on it instead of those old Bias Ply tires, so that it was safe and fun to drive.

Are you going to shoot the M16 clone? Might as well enjoy it after all that money and effort. You could always go with a Larue MBT-2S. A nice 2 stage for $80

I actually used RRA NM triggers on my clones.

brasscollector · December 31, 2020, 06:28 PM

I agree. My A2 clone is wearing a magpul grip

and an RRA varmint trigger, it's still cool

jonnyc · January 1, 2021, 12:25 AM

I put the Geisselle 2-stage in my M4-gery. Go for it.

imashooter · January 1, 2021, 08:17 AM

It is what it is, it's not what it's not. Do what you wanna do. Doesn't matter.

Willie Lowman · January 1, 2021, 09:17 AM

Do it.

greentick · January 2, 2021, 03:51 AM

The ALG QMS feels like a cleaner version of GI if you want to keep it close.

rmh3481 · January 2, 2021, 07:08 AM

Im kinda torn on this one, on one hand you want the authentic feel of what you may have carried? On the other hand a Larue trigger would be nice? Maybe polish the factory trigger and see how it acts?

Nodak1858 · January 2, 2021, 12:23 PM

If you want a cheap upgrade that does help try a nickel boron treated trigger set. I have a bought quite a few of the Right To Bear ones. They have a much better feel than milspec and if you pair it with lighter springs you can bring the pull weight down as well.

AlaskaMike · January 2, 2021, 12:32 PM

I've had a closeish version of a CAR-15 (XM177E2) for almost 30 years now, and I just recently dropped in an ALG ACT. It's pretty close to the QMS, but I think has some kind of slicker metal coating or treatment.

I went with the ACT for the same reasons it sounds like you're thinking of. I wanted to retain the "battle rifle" aspect, but clean up the crappy mil-spec trigger. I'm really happy with it, and for about $70 you just can't go wrong.

smee78 · January 5, 2021, 08:37 PM

If I was trying to get a trigger that operated closer to a happy trigger I would get a Franklin Armory Binary trigger. Then you can flip it to the fun position and get as close as possible legally. Just a thought, and like you said you already have other AR's with upgraded triggers.

December 31, 2020, 04:52 PM	#1
'88Scrat Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 547	M16A4 Clone Trigger Opinion Need some opinions. I have an FN Military Collector M16 that I topped with an ACOG to make the rifle as close as I can to a USMC M16A4. The only thing missing is the giggle switch, but it's as close as I can legally make it. It looks awesome! That said the USGI trigger is... uh... serviceable... All my other ARs have upgraded triggers so when I shoot it I REALLY notice the difference. I kinda want to drop a Giessle trigger into it but feel that kind of defeats the purpose of being a clone. That said there would be no cosmetic difference. Whatcha think? __________________ BOOM

December 31, 2020, 06:04 PM	#2
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December 31, 2020, 06:28 PM	#3
brasscollector Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2015 Posts: 526	I agree. My A2 clone is wearing a magpul grip and an RRA varmint trigger, it's still cool __________________ He may look dumb, but that's just a disguise. -Charlie Daniels

January 1, 2021, 12:25 AM	#4
jonnyc Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2009 Location: PA Posts: 1,731	I put the Geisselle 2-stage in my M4-gery. Go for it. __________________ 2024 PA Cartridge Collector Show; Aug. 16-17, 2024!!! Buy...Sell...Trade All Types of Ammunition & Ordnance PM or email me for 2024 show details. Last edited by jonnyc; January 1, 2021 at 10:37 AM.

January 1, 2021, 09:17 AM	#6
Willie Lowman Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2009 Location: Uh-Hi-O Posts: 3,006	Do it. __________________ "9mm has a very long history of being a pointy little bullet moving quickly" --Sevens

January 1, 2021, 08:17 AM	#5
imashooter Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 395	It is what it is, it's not what it's not. Do what you wanna do. Doesn't matter.

January 2, 2021, 03:51 AM	#7
greentick Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2011 Location: Deep South Posts: 261	The ALG QMS feels like a cleaner version of GI if you want to keep it close. __________________ nous défions

January 2, 2021, 07:08 AM	#8
rmh3481 Member Join Date: August 25, 2015 Location: Western Pa Posts: 52	Im kinda torn on this one, on one hand you want the authentic feel of what you may have carried? On the other hand a Larue trigger would be nice? Maybe polish the factory trigger and see how it acts?

January 2, 2021, 12:23 PM	#9
Nodak1858 Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2009 Location: N. Dakota Posts: 435	If you want a cheap upgrade that does help try a nickel boron treated trigger set. I have a bought quite a few of the Right To Bear ones. They have a much better feel than milspec and if you pair it with lighter springs you can bring the pull weight down as well. __________________ We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true.

January 2, 2021, 12:32 PM	#10
AlaskaMike Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2005 Posts: 941	I've had a closeish version of a CAR-15 (XM177E2) for almost 30 years now, and I just recently dropped in an ALG ACT. It's pretty close to the QMS, but I think has some kind of slicker metal coating or treatment. I went with the ACT for the same reasons it sounds like you're thinking of. I wanted to retain the "battle rifle" aspect, but clean up the crappy mil-spec trigger. I'm really happy with it, and for about $70 you just can't go wrong.

January 5, 2021, 08:37 PM	#11
smee78 Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,918	If I was trying to get a trigger that operated closer to a happy trigger I would get a Franklin Armory Binary trigger. Then you can flip it to the fun position and get as close as possible legally. Just a thought, and like you said you already have other AR's with upgraded triggers. __________________ We know exactly where one cow with Mad-cow-disease is located, among the millions and millions of cows in America, but we haven't got a clue where thousands of illegal immigrants and terrorists are

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