What's going on with TFL today?

**Mike Irwin** · January 23, 2001, 09:44 PM

Very slow all day, and positively GLACIAL tonight.

JJB · January 23, 2001, 09:52 PM

I've been on for about 45 minutes. It has varied from acceptable to glacial within the same forum. Doesn't even seen to be based on the length (number of posts) in the topic.

TheBluesMan · January 23, 2001, 09:58 PM

I've had no problems all day.

Might be a latency problem in your area. If it's still slow tomorrow, let us know.

Thanks.

**Mal H** · January 23, 2001, 10:08 PM

Mike, we are in relatively the same internet area. TFL has been zippy fast for me today. So I don't think it will turn out to be an internet latency problem, so I would suspect an ISP problem. Are other sites fast or slow?

**Mike Irwin** · January 23, 2001, 10:22 PM

Mal,

I'm on a cable modem at home, and a T-something at work.

Both are BLINDINGLY fast.

All of the other sites I've visited this evening have been EXCEPTIONALLY fast as well, even the ones with heavy duty graphics & animation.

Not more than 3 minutes ago TFL "froze" again, and refused to load ANYTHING for about 5 minutes.

I got the steady "waiting for reply" message.

I clicked out to a couple of other sites, and BOOM. Instant downloads.

It seems that it's TFL.

**Mike Irwin** · January 23, 2001, 10:23 PM

Whoops. Deleting double post.

**Mal H** · January 23, 2001, 11:11 PM

Ok Mike, did you experience a slow down, or rather a stop cold, at around 11:01 EST? I couldn't get a response from TFL for roughly 7 to 8 min. Other sites were very slow. Also at about the time you said previously (~ 10:15), I noticed a slow down for a few minutes. So I think we are seeing an area wide problem.

**Mike Irwin** · January 23, 2001, 11:21 PM

Mal,

Nope, I was somewhere else at 11p.m.

This was just before my message was timestamped, or around 10:10 to 10:20 or so. My clock and TFL are very close in time reference.

And, I got frustrated, canceled out, and positively BLASTED to another, graphics intense Website, which downloaded in probably 5 seconds.

**Rich Lucibella** · January 23, 2001, 11:35 PM

Mike-
Chances are it was an issue of interface from one TelCo to the next (called "peering", I think). TFL is on ATT with Cable and Wireless as backup. Your ISP's Telco and your geographic location determines at what point you hook up to the carrier for TFL. If that peering interface is having problems, the site appears to be down.

Exact same thing happened to me several weeks ago...I called the Web Host fuming. They said the site was up...no problem. Dropped off my cable modem and dialed into my ISP on an 800 number....immediate connect.

That's the reason all sites sometimes see an isolated user complain of connect problems. Our tendency is to assume it's either our ISP or the remote host....actually, there's lots in between.
Rich

**Mike Irwin** · January 24, 2001, 12:31 AM

Makes sense, Rich.

I'll do a router trace to see what the path is from home, and then do the same thing from work, and see if there's a common thread.

January 23, 2001, 09:52 PM	#2
JJB Member Join Date: October 19, 1998 Location: Logansport, IN Posts: 87	I've been on for about 45 minutes. It has varied from acceptable to glacial within the same forum. Doesn't even seen to be based on the length (number of posts) in the topic. __________________ Jim in IN -- TANSTAAFL

January 23, 2001, 09:44 PM	#1
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	Very slow all day, and positively GLACIAL tonight.

January 23, 2001, 09:58 PM	#3
TheBluesMan Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 15, 1999 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,558	I've had no problems all day. Might be a latency problem in your area. If it's still slow tomorrow, let us know. Thanks.

January 23, 2001, 10:08 PM	#4
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 16,955	Mike, we are in relatively the same internet area. TFL has been zippy fast for me today. So I don't think it will turn out to be an internet latency problem, so I would suspect an ISP problem. Are other sites fast or slow?

January 23, 2001, 10:22 PM	#5
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	Mal, I'm on a cable modem at home, and a T-something at work. Both are BLINDINGLY fast. All of the other sites I've visited this evening have been EXCEPTIONALLY fast as well, even the ones with heavy duty graphics & animation. Not more than 3 minutes ago TFL "froze" again, and refused to load ANYTHING for about 5 minutes. I got the steady "waiting for reply" message. I clicked out to a couple of other sites, and BOOM. Instant downloads. It seems that it's TFL.

January 23, 2001, 10:23 PM	#6
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	Whoops. Deleting double post.

January 23, 2001, 11:11 PM	#7
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 16,955	Ok Mike, did you experience a slow down, or rather a stop cold, at around 11:01 EST? I couldn't get a response from TFL for roughly 7 to 8 min. Other sites were very slow. Also at about the time you said previously (~ 10:15), I noticed a slow down for a few minutes. So I think we are seeing an area wide problem.

January 23, 2001, 11:21 PM	#8
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	Mal, Nope, I was somewhere else at 11p.m. This was just before my message was timestamped, or around 10:10 to 10:20 or so. My clock and TFL are very close in time reference. And, I got frustrated, canceled out, and positively BLASTED to another, graphics intense Website, which downloaded in probably 5 seconds.

January 23, 2001, 11:35 PM	#9
Rich Lucibella Staff Join Date: October 6, 1998 Location: South Florida Posts: 10,229	Mike- Chances are it was an issue of interface from one TelCo to the next (called "peering", I think). TFL is on ATT with Cable and Wireless as backup. Your ISP's Telco and your geographic location determines at what point you hook up to the carrier for TFL. If that peering interface is having problems, the site appears to be down. Exact same thing happened to me several weeks ago...I called the Web Host fuming. They said the site was up...no problem. Dropped off my cable modem and dialed into my ISP on an 800 number....immediate connect. That's the reason all sites sometimes see an isolated user complain of connect problems. Our tendency is to assume it's either our ISP or the remote host....actually, there's lots in between. Rich

January 24, 2001, 12:31 AM	#10
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	Makes sense, Rich. I'll do a router trace to see what the path is from home, and then do the same thing from work, and see if there's a common thread.