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Old February 24, 2009, 12:56 PM   #1
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"Soft" shooting .45 round for the Girlfriend?

Well "we" just got "our" first 1911, and she loves the way it feels, and can not wait to shoot it. This being my first .45, I am not sure what is out there as far as low recoiling rounds go. I have heard that it is more of a push than flip with 230gr. ball. Is there anything you guys can recomend for her? I would feel bad if she didn't like shooting it, as she has been fondling it more than me. Thanks in advance guys.
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Old February 24, 2009, 01:00 PM   #2
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Have you tried some 200gr SWC loads? They are mild-recoiling and leave a nice, satisfying, circular hole in the paper.
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Old February 24, 2009, 01:01 PM   #3
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Do you reload?

4.4gr Titegroup with 230gr LRN boolit. Nice and light, smooth shooting. Cheap, too.
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Old February 24, 2009, 01:20 PM   #4
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Let her shoot it first. You never know. She might take to it right away.

Watch out with loads that are too mild. You may need to swap out the recoil spring with a lighter one in order to keep it functional.
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Old February 24, 2009, 01:22 PM   #5
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Watch out with loads that are too mild. You may need to swap out the recoil spring with a lighter one in order to keep it functional.
True 'dat. A lot of 1911 clones are oversprung from the factory these days to begin with, as though they expect you to shoot a lot of +P ammo or something...
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Old February 24, 2009, 01:30 PM   #6
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Have you tried some 200gr SWC loads?
I have not even shot it yet, it is still waiting to be broken in.

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Do you reload?
I don't, we are limited to factory rounds only.

The gun is a RIA Tactical if that helps. Thanks again.
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Old February 24, 2009, 01:48 PM   #7
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BALL ammo should be just fine.
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Old February 24, 2009, 03:02 PM   #8
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I rarely see SWC at retailers. When I've purchased it, it's been through online suppliers. So I'd second the recommendation for 230gr FMJ. A lot of the other 45 ACP that you'll find in gun shops is likely to be +p (i.e. high pressure). Ball ammo really isn't bad in a 1911, recoil wise. Just make sure that she's set-up properly w/ her grip and stance, the pistol will take care of the rest.

If you want to try some SWC, MagTech's plated SWC is pretty mild. So is BlackHill's lead SWC.
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Old February 24, 2009, 04:33 PM   #9
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if you can find someone to reload, 200 swc with 7grns of HS-6 is super soft.
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Old February 24, 2009, 04:41 PM   #10
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My standard load for .45 ACP target loads is a 200 grain LSWC over 3.8 grains of Hogdgon Clays. My Springfield Milspec with standard recoil spring cycles them with no problem.
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Old February 24, 2009, 04:44 PM   #11
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Taurus Hex 185gr [that feature Barnes' all-copper XPB bullets] is the lightest recoiling .45 load i'm aware of. It's difficult to locate, but arguably the hardest-hitting for SD.

For range ammo, check out 185gr wadcutters made by W-W, R-P and Fed
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Old February 24, 2009, 05:04 PM   #12
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Winchester White Box 180gr FMJ

Works perfectly fine in a 1911 with a standard 16# recoil spring.
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Old February 24, 2009, 05:54 PM   #13
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Fiocchi 230gr FMJ is VERY soft shooting in my SIG P220.
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Old February 24, 2009, 06:43 PM   #14
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I rarely see SWC at retailers. When I've purchased it, it's been through online suppliers.
Okay, right.

Dude obviously has an internet connection, no?
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Old February 24, 2009, 07:20 PM   #15
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Hey DD, tell you what. My friend really enjoys my Sig 220. Why? Because it has a lot of 'flip'. She thinks the 22 is a toy.

You may be surprised, powerful guns can be empowering to certain people.
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Old February 24, 2009, 07:22 PM   #16
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Dude obviously has an internet connection, no?
Hahahha.
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Old February 24, 2009, 07:39 PM   #17
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Well I figured that much

It's just that it's expensive to buy small lots of ammo online, and he ..
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Old February 24, 2009, 07:41 PM   #18
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I'm not 100% sure but I think someone might make a 160gr. 45ACP round. THat would be very controllable.
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Old February 24, 2009, 08:24 PM   #19
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Why not just let her shoot it and see what happens. My g/f shoots everything I own with ease. From my Ruger LCP to my S & W 500 Magnum. She's only 5' tall and 110 lbs. and handles all firearms with ease. You might be suprised.
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Old February 24, 2009, 09:36 PM   #20
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Let her try it +1

I just got my first 1911 a month and the first day at the range my girl wanted to try it. She has tried the M&P .40 full size so when she asked about the .45 i let her try it.

BIG MISTAKE LOL I think I need to buy another 1911 because my girl loves to shoot the .45 with the 230 grn winchester white box no problems.

IMO let her try it and see what she thinks. Let us know how it goes.
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Old February 24, 2009, 09:51 PM   #21
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She might surprise you and love the way it shoots as is. Let her try it before you try to soften it up. An all steel 45 takes a lot of the recoil.
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Old February 25, 2009, 08:17 AM   #22
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Buy plain old WWB FMJ or similar. Don't assume it is too much gun for 'the little lady' to handle - worry more about her enjoying it so much that you need to take out a second mortgage to keep her in ammo!
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Old February 25, 2009, 08:23 AM   #23
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Did someone say "light recoiling .45"? That will summon me, with a link to www.frangiblebullets.com faster than Wildalaska to a Bersa thread (I kid, I kid).

Frangible bullets sells rounds from two manufacturers, International Cartridge Corporation, and then a more affordable round from Wagner AccuSwage. Both rounds are made out of a sintered copper/tin alloy, which means that they're 30% lighter while taking up the same volume as a traditional round. For example, Wagner makes a 140 grain .45 ACP round that's loaded to about 950 FPS, which has the lightest recoil of any .45 ACP I've ever pulled the trigger on; honestly it's like shooting a medium .40.

I used Wagner ammo a lot for practice in .40, their 125 grain round is a favorite "Cheater" load for IDPA or USPSA Production division for me, as it meets the power factor but has minimal recoil. Check out their reduced weight loads in .45 ACP.
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Old February 25, 2009, 08:27 AM   #24
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Don't assume it is too much gun for 'the little lady' to handle -
Definitely.

I like the 200gr SWC because A) It leaves nice round holes in the target and B) the lighter recoil helps when you're shooting a hundred rounds at a whack, I don't care who you are.
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Old February 25, 2009, 02:16 PM   #25
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Wow guys/gals thanks for all the info, I'm sure I am just beng overly cautious.
The only thing I am concerned about is the slide movement. She didn't like the Taurus pt92 when I had it for that reason. She loves the GP100 w/ .38s though. We'll see how she does with it. I just wanted to grab a box of something a little more mild in case she wasn't a fan of the 230gr. ball. I would hate to have to tell her "next time". I just wanted to be prepared for her sake. Thanks again.


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