McLean County ILLINOIS AG Will NOT PROSECUTE FOR CONCEAL CARRY - Page 2

Luger_carbine · August 21, 2012, 05:18 PM

I guess whatever idea Pat Quinn, Lisa Madigan and Hiram Grau came up with to pressure Dozier to delay his press release didn't work so well

Luger_carbine · August 21, 2012, 05:27 PM

It seems like he got kinda preachy about RTKBA it doesn't seem like he needed to get into crime statistics.

armoredman · August 21, 2012, 06:34 PM

Gusty man. What's interesting is unlike Dear Leader refusing to prosecute people under DOMA or Federal drug laws, this man has SCOTUS decisions to back himself up with, nice move. We'll see what happens next.

Luger_carbine · August 21, 2012, 11:44 PM

Dozier is only going to be in office for another 2 months. While the incoming state's attorney is pro-gun, he isn't going to follow Dozier's exact policy:

http://wjbc.com/sa-dozier-relaxing-r...ncealed-carry/

It seems like in the future - the decision to charge may reside with the arresting officer.

Sounds like a recipe for chaos to me...

False Dmitri · August 22, 2012, 12:43 PM

the sheriff and the BPD chief agree with the DA, but have said they will continue to "enforce the law," meaning they'll make arrests. It will be up to the DA (who will replaced by the DA-elect that has stated this is "reckless.")

My guess is if anyone gets pinched for of these offenses, the current DA will decline the prosecute, but the new DA will file or refile charges against those arrested during this time period as soon as he's in office.

I'm not going to be a test case, that's for sure!

KevK. · August 22, 2012, 03:02 PM

It's going to get very ugly if someone does carry concealed and has to use a weapon in self-defense.

Even if I lived there I wouldn't carry until the law was changed. I stop a voilent crime by shooting someone and the legal ramifications both criminal and civil will be horrible. I might not be criminally prosecuted, but I'll lose everything else.

Gary L. Griffiths · August 23, 2012, 12:37 AM

Quote:

I might not be criminally prosecuted, but I'll lose everything else.

...except your life!

junglebob · September 4, 2012, 07:19 PM

KevK, Believe it or not Illinois has some good laws to protect you if you are defending yourself against someone committing a forcible felony.

In Public Act 093-0832 it says "In no case shall any act involving the use of force justified under this section give rise to any claim or liability brought by or onbehold of any person acting within the definition of "agressor of this Article, or the estate, spouse, or other family member of such a person, against the person or estate of the person using such justified force, unless the use of force involves willful or wanton misconduct.

In other words you can't be sued by a perp for defending yourself.

August 21, 2012, 11:44 PM	#29
Luger_carbine Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2012 Posts: 389	This may lead to confusion in the future Dozier is only going to be in office for another 2 months. While the incoming state's attorney is pro-gun, he isn't going to follow Dozier's exact policy: http://wjbc.com/sa-dozier-relaxing-r...ncealed-carry/ It seems like in the future - the decision to charge may reside with the arresting officer. Sounds like a recipe for chaos to me...

August 22, 2012, 12:43 PM	#30
False Dmitri Junior Member Join Date: May 4, 2010 Posts: 4	I live in McLean Co the sheriff and the BPD chief agree with the DA, but have said they will continue to "enforce the law," meaning they'll make arrests. It will be up to the DA (who will replaced by the DA-elect that has stated this is "reckless.") My guess is if anyone gets pinched for of these offenses, the current DA will decline the prosecute, but the new DA will file or refile charges against those arrested during this time period as soon as he's in office. I'm not going to be a test case, that's for sure!

August 22, 2012, 03:02 PM	#31
KevK. Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2012 Posts: 137	It's going to get very ugly if someone does carry concealed and has to use a weapon in self-defense. Even if I lived there I wouldn't carry until the law was changed. I stop a voilent crime by shooting someone and the legal ramifications both criminal and civil will be horrible. I might not be criminally prosecuted, but I'll lose everything else. __________________ CZ82, S&W Mod. 65 .357, Marlin 22mn (22WMR), Mossberg 500.

August 21, 2012, 05:18 PM	#26
Luger_carbine Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2012 Posts: 389	I guess whatever idea Pat Quinn, Lisa Madigan and Hiram Grau came up with to pressure Dozier to delay his press release didn't work so well

August 21, 2012, 05:27 PM	#27
Luger_carbine Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2012 Posts: 389	It seems like he got kinda preachy about RTKBA it doesn't seem like he needed to get into crime statistics.

August 21, 2012, 06:34 PM	#28
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,299	Gusty man. What's interesting is unlike Dear Leader refusing to prosecute people under DOMA or Federal drug laws, this man has SCOTUS decisions to back himself up with, nice move. We'll see what happens next.

September 4, 2012, 07:19 PM	#33
junglebob Member Join Date: December 16, 2004 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 85	KevK, Believe it or not Illinois has some good laws to protect you if you are defending yourself against someone committing a forcible felony. In Public Act 093-0832 it says "In no case shall any act involving the use of force justified under this section give rise to any claim or liability brought by or onbehold of any person acting within the definition of "agressor of this Article, or the estate, spouse, or other family member of such a person, against the person or estate of the person using such justified force, unless the use of force involves willful or wanton misconduct. In other words you can't be sued by a perp for defending yourself.