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July 28, 2006, 10:19 PM | #26 |
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Had a friend who had a friend who mouthed off to a security guard and refused to leave private property. The sec guard pulled out a gun (which he was not licensed to carry nor allowed to by the security company) and shot the friend in the hip. He had to have a pin put in but sued the security company which paid for the medical expenses plus $250,000.
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July 29, 2006, 05:10 PM | #27 |
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It's time to install motion-sensitive security lighting.
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August 3, 2006, 10:46 PM | #28 |
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Always play it safe. Call 911, but before you do this again, call your local police force and find out what their average response is for prowler on premises is. A lot longer than for someone to break into your house and harm your loved ones.
When I go outside to see about noises and the dogs, the wife is armed and ready in the house. Never present yourself as a target, keep to the shadows. Use a flashlight only when you have to for it gives your position away. When in place, chamber a new round, for that sound will cause all but the crazies to run. A shotgun at night is a better choice than a pistol for the first weapon. The second weapon needs to be a pistol. For those that need more security, make the third weapon a kbar. Do not forget to pickup the round. |
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+1 on staying inside as much as practical.
That said, we all make decisions based on the perceived threat level. If you think the dogs are barking because of activity on the far side of the fence and presume that activity has not yet migrated across the fence-line, then sitting on the back porch isn't unreasonable. My advice would be to invest in a good SureFire tactical light or a small bright flashlight to keep ready in the home. In these situations you can pretty well light up most back yards to identify your suspect. A cordless phone with a headset is a big plus since it keeps your hands free. And there's nothing wrong with turning on the back yard lights before you go outside. Quote:
Re: Command Voice The use of a command voice (i.e. "Let me see your hands! Do it now!") often works, regardless of your LEO status or not. Back in the 70's we learned that assuming the role of authority often worked and many people/sheeple responded accordingly. In a situation where you can't see the person behind the voice a response of "Who are you?" is a first step. It allows the voice to identify themselves and to be aware that you can't see their uniform or "badge of office". If the response is "Police" or "Police officer" the wise move is to comply carefully but to ask "How do I know that?" Police officers will generally issue further orders to secure their safety and then identify themselves in due course. A BG who is "faking it" will probably get flustered and give themselves away. Remember that security guards are "normal citizens" with no police powers. If they give orders, you can calmly and without offering any threat, walk away from them (into the house of course). Of course if the voice is very nervous and sounds like Barney Fife going through puberty, it'd be a good idea to say "I'm going inside to call the cops" first. Quote:
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August 4, 2006, 10:48 PM | #30 | |
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August 5, 2006, 01:47 PM | #31 |
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Night vision is cheap.... may not work in urban settings but still worth a look.
I would have probibly gone out, at least on the porch.... If someone from the other side of the fence simply yelled 'show me your hands' with no other identification I would have given then the finger and ignored them Unless the side of the car said 'Blackwater' on it fudge them.... low life mall commando's. |
August 5, 2006, 01:54 PM | #32 |
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glad you did not shoot anyone.
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