AK ejection direction

PushPuller · December 17, 2021, 02:40 PM

Good morning everybody!

So in short, I recently bought a PSA AK (please don’t flame me lol) and I actually really like it for what it is. But it chucks shell casings probably 10-15 feet, at about the 2-o-clock position. Which I don’t recall with my old AKs.

I also noticed the dust cover at the rear of the ejection port has some brass markings on it similar to an AR brass deflector.

Is this any cause for concern? Or is there anything I need to look into to remedy this.

The recoil felt normal, and the gun otherwise performed very well.

MC 1911 · December 17, 2021, 04:07 PM

Nothing to worry about.

TXAZ · December 17, 2021, 04:17 PM

I've had 3 AK's, all ejected similar to yours.

NYPD13 · December 17, 2021, 04:36 PM

Seams fine, my PSAK47 does the same. My HK91 on the other hand launches brass 50-60 feet!

Dfariswheel · December 18, 2021, 05:56 PM

The Soviets designed the AK series to eject vigorously even in sub-zero conditions so they usually eject with considerable force.

My Bulgarian AK-74 ejects cases 15 to 20 feet at 2:00 O'clock and 10 feet up in the air.
I have a tough time shooting it on a public range because anyone sitting to my right on another bench is in serious danger of getting hurt.

I once shot it on a friends farm near some trees, and we found cases embedded mouth first in a tree.
That points up the old story about a firearm that "Kills from the muzzle, wounds at the rear".

Mike38 · December 18, 2021, 06:12 PM

My AK in 5.56 ejects at 2:00 but about 30 feet away. Over gassed maybe.

**44 AMP** · December 18, 2021, 06:22 PM

The point is to ENSURE the fired brass leaves the gun. That's it. Where it goes, how far, and if it bounces off the ejection port on the way out are not considerations.

Don't fret it, its normal for military based semi autos.

stagpanther · December 18, 2021, 06:24 PM

I recently received a surprise package from Russia--a cosmonaut had recently returned from the space station and had found some of my AK brass in orbit!

HistoryJunky · December 29, 2021, 01:30 AM

Every AK I have ever shot/owned ejects into the neighboring zip code.

Ignition Override · December 29, 2021, 01:36 AM

My four imported AKMs --Maadi (Intrac), MAK 90, FEG AMD and new Zastava ZPAP-- all seem to eject at about 2:00.

Ignition Override · January 22, 2022, 02:43 PM

The importance of reliable ejection - without a Martin Baker

or “Aces” seat - is why the VZ-58 was designed to be totally open when the bolt is pushed fully aft.

This directional topic never seems to be discussed regarding the Czechpoint/CSA VZ.

With AKMs, as long as a (extremely rare) weak powder load etc does Not result in a double-feed, ejection never seems to be mentioned over many, many hours spent reading AKfiles.

Some of those guys are Wannabe “operators”: ie SEALs/SBS, but many of the regulars are AK builders.

Shadow9mm · January 23, 2022, 08:05 AM

I have shot a couple aka over the years. Owned one for a bit too. All ejected in the 2oclock range.

December 17, 2021, 02:40 PM	#1
PushPuller Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2018 Posts: 156	AK ejection direction Good morning everybody! So in short, I recently bought a PSA AK (please don’t flame me lol) and I actually really like it for what it is. But it chucks shell casings probably 10-15 feet, at about the 2-o-clock position. Which I don’t recall with my old AKs. I also noticed the dust cover at the rear of the ejection port has some brass markings on it similar to an AR brass deflector. Is this any cause for concern? Or is there anything I need to look into to remedy this. The recoil felt normal, and the gun otherwise performed very well.

December 17, 2021, 04:17 PM	#3
TXAZ Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2010 Location: McMurdo Sound Texas Posts: 4,322	I've had 3 AK's, all ejected similar to yours. __________________ Cave illos in guns et backhoes

December 17, 2021, 04:36 PM	#4
NYPD13 Senior Member Join Date: September 10, 2008 Posts: 370	Seams fine, my PSAK47 does the same. My HK91 on the other hand launches brass 50-60 feet! __________________ "THE CONSTITUTION ONLY GIVES PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO PURSUE HAPPINESS, YOU HAVE TO CATCH IT YOURSELF." ~BENJAMIN FRANKLIN.

December 18, 2021, 06:22 PM	#7
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,833	The point is to ENSURE the fired brass leaves the gun. That's it. Where it goes, how far, and if it bounces off the ejection port on the way out are not considerations. Don't fret it, its normal for military based semi autos. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

December 18, 2021, 06:24 PM	#8
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 11,786	I recently received a surprise package from Russia--a cosmonaut had recently returned from the space station and had found some of my AK brass in orbit! __________________ "Everyone speaks gun."--Robert O'Neill *I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!*

December 17, 2021, 04:07 PM	#2
MC 1911 Senior Member Join Date: February 19, 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 373	Nothing to worry about.

December 18, 2021, 05:56 PM	#5
Dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 7,478	The Soviets designed the AK series to eject vigorously even in sub-zero conditions so they usually eject with considerable force. My Bulgarian AK-74 ejects cases 15 to 20 feet at 2:00 O'clock and 10 feet up in the air. I have a tough time shooting it on a public range because anyone sitting to my right on another bench is in serious danger of getting hurt. I once shot it on a friends farm near some trees, and we found cases embedded mouth first in a tree. That points up the old story about a firearm that "Kills from the muzzle, wounds at the rear".

December 18, 2021, 06:12 PM	#6
Mike38 Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2009 Location: North Central Illinois Posts: 2,710	My AK in 5.56 ejects at 2:00 but about 30 feet away. Over gassed maybe.

December 29, 2021, 01:30 AM	#9
HistoryJunky Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2010 Location: Freeport, IL Posts: 833	Every AK I have ever shot/owned ejects into the neighboring zip code.

December 29, 2021, 01:36 AM	#10
Ignition Override Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 2008 Location: About 20 nm from the Big Muddy Posts: 2,886	My four imported AKMs --Maadi (Intrac), MAK 90, FEG AMD and new Zastava ZPAP-- all seem to eject at about 2:00.

January 22, 2022, 02:43 PM	#11
Ignition Override Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 2008 Location: About 20 nm from the Big Muddy Posts: 2,886	The importance of reliable ejection - without a Martin Baker or “Aces” seat - is why the VZ-58 was designed to be totally open when the bolt is pushed fully aft. This directional topic never seems to be discussed regarding the Czechpoint/CSA VZ. With AKMs, as long as a (extremely rare) weak powder load etc does Not result in a double-feed, ejection never seems to be mentioned over many, many hours spent reading AKfiles. Some of those guys are Wannabe “operators”: ie SEALs/SBS, but many of the regulars are AK builders. Last edited by Ignition Override; January 22, 2022 at 02:55 PM.

January 23, 2022, 08:05 AM	#12
Shadow9mm Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2012 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 3,974	I have shot a couple aka over the years. Owned one for a bit too. All ejected in the 2oclock range. __________________ I don't believe in "range fodder" that is why I reload.