The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Skunkworks > Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old January 17, 2008, 09:55 PM   #1
HarcoHunter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: December 18, 2007
Posts: 9
45-70 loads for H&R Handi-Rifle

In Mississippi we now can use the 45-70, 444 and other single shot handi-rifles for primative weapon season. I am trying to load 300gr. Speer JHP and 300gr Barnes TSX using H4891 or H335. On the Hodgdon web page I used the 300gr Sierra HP load data for the 300gr Speer JHP. No pressure problems, but just seems too excessive and kicks like two mules. Does anyone have any good starting loads for these two bullets and two powders?
HarcoHunter is offline  
Old January 18, 2008, 04:13 PM   #2
skua44
Junior Member
 
Join Date: January 18, 2008
Location: bug-infested E. TX
Posts: 11
First of all, I don't have a direct answer to your question. I can say, though, that I have had a similar experience with a Siamese mauser that I had barreled to .45-70 several years ago. I shot light loads that I also shot in a trapdoor. Very comfortable. I finally decided that I would step my loads up to the capability of the turn-bolt rifle. Shooting 300 gr flat-points I could get 3-shot cloverleafs at 50 yds using a Williams aperture rear sight. No pressure signs in loads near the top of the Hornady manual but plenty of pressure in my shoulder. That sucker thumps! I have since put a recoil pad of sorbothane material on the rifle. Helps a lot. I wanted to keep the load I was shooting since it did shoot so well. I just had to come up with some way to endure it.
skua44 is offline  
Old January 19, 2008, 10:42 AM   #3
jsflagstad
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 29, 2005
Location: Up Nort
Posts: 413
I haven't reloaded for the 45/70 yet, but to my recolection there is a 275 gr Hornady HP available that I was planning to load pretty hot. I remember running the numbers and it actually looked like it would shoot pretty flat for a "pumpkin slinger".....
jsflagstad is offline  
Old January 22, 2008, 10:09 PM   #4
tbtrout
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 27, 2007
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 234
I was using 46 gr of IMR 4198 with 300's. Accurate and moderate recoil.
tbtrout is offline  
Old November 10, 2008, 09:44 AM   #5
jsflagstad
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 29, 2005
Location: Up Nort
Posts: 413
So I picked up a set of 45/70 dies, and I am looking to load up a decent load for whitetail. Looks like I will go with either the Barnes 275 gr or 300 grain bullets. Anyone used these with any luck? Id like to make it shoot decently flat out to 200 yards, is that going to be tough to do? I think I will put a Nikon Prostaff scope with the BDC (Bullet Drop Compensator) on it. I am not real concerned about recoil, as I think I can take it and I think the Nikon should be able to take it as well.

What do you guys think??

JSF
__________________
JSF


"Is your rifle interesting? -Larry Potterfield
jsflagstad is offline  
Old November 10, 2008, 11:47 AM   #6
Loader9
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 29, 2008
Posts: 949
I'm shooting the 300 gr Remington out of my 45-70's and they all shoot it very good. It's good enough to drop 500 lb hogs at distance. Try 51.0 grs H4198 for accuracy. I'm also using Federal 210 primers.
Loader9 is offline  
Old November 10, 2008, 04:00 PM   #7
jsflagstad
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 29, 2005
Location: Up Nort
Posts: 413
Anyone using 2400 under a 300 grain bullet. I have a bunch of that.

JSF
__________________
JSF


"Is your rifle interesting? -Larry Potterfield
jsflagstad is offline  
Old November 11, 2008, 07:22 PM   #8
Al57
Member
 
Join Date: December 5, 2006
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 69
I have used with great success on corn fed whitetails , the 300 gr. Rem. JHP. and 50 grs. of IMR 3031 in my 45/70 Handi. Mild, accurate and a quick stopper through the lungs.
Al57 is offline  
Old December 10, 2008, 08:42 PM   #9
jsflagstad
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 29, 2005
Location: Up Nort
Posts: 413
Ended up using a 300 grn Barnes over VV N133 for an average of 2450 fps on the chrony. Actually doesn't kick too bad. Should be hot enough for just about anything in my woods.....
__________________
JSF


"Is your rifle interesting? -Larry Potterfield
jsflagstad is offline  
Old November 20, 2011, 03:23 AM   #10
TripHlx
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 10, 2011
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 110
Quick question guys. I'm new to reloading, so this might sound like a stupid question, but I'm genuinely curious here.

My Hornady Manual (8th ed) lists three sets of data for the 45-70 Gov't. One for Trapdoor actions, one for the Ruger #1, and one for the 1895 Marlin. Which one would be safe for the Handi-Rifle action? I don't think the action would be as strong as a trapdoor, so should I be looking at the Ruger #1 loads? Thanks in advance guys!

Edit: I'm an idiot. I don't know for the life of me why I was thinking a trapdoor action would be stronger than the Ruger #1 or Mauser style action. I've taken the time to do a little bit more reading, and discovered that I'm likely going to need to keep my loads in the trapdoor range to remain safe in my action. Sorry for what turned out to literally be a stupid question guys. Thanks again!
__________________
"If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. That's ridiculous. If I have a gun, what in the hell do I have to be paranoid for." - Clint Smith
TripHlx is offline  
Old November 20, 2011, 08:11 AM   #11
Dr. A
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 17, 2007
Location: Salina, KS.
Posts: 215
Handi rifles are rated as strong as leveraction Marlin 1895's. When comparing, they might be a little more stout than they are but not the same as a Ruger #1. Loading them to leveraction pressures gives all the power needed.
Dr. A is offline  
Old December 14, 2011, 03:50 PM   #12
Trapperbk
Member
 
Join Date: December 27, 2009
Posts: 23
Harco, I too am from Mississippi, and load for my "Handi Rifle. I use 48 grains of H4198 behind a Hornady 300 grain hollow point. Accurate, and devesting. Not very bad recoil either.
Trapperbk is offline  
Old December 14, 2011, 04:59 PM   #13
B78-22250
Member
 
Join Date: May 24, 2009
Location: Eden NC
Posts: 56
45-70 loads

I have posted my loads on this site several times. Look up b78-22250.Good luck friend. The old war horse has proved its self a real killer time and time again(on both ends). I love it.
B78-22250 is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:46 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2018 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.06817 seconds with 8 queries