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January 15, 2013, 04:27 PM | #126 |
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This is truly sad. If you poor, oppressed people in NY can't take back the reigns to your state government, i do hope you can obtain shelter in a more reasonable state. It is hot down here in MS, but the government is very reasonable about your firearms rights; consider your options.
If i understood the mentions of restrictions on ammo purchases, i would hope that eveybody here would encourage any internet ammo sellers to fill orders for NY residents before they fill orders for those of us in comparitively free states. Hang in there yankees! |
January 15, 2013, 04:33 PM | #127 |
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Hey Brian, MO could use some good, NY-style pizza!
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January 15, 2013, 04:57 PM | #128 |
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http://www.lohud.com/article/2013011...o-sign-shortly
Passed w/out much of a problem. On to Cuomo next. |
January 15, 2013, 05:07 PM | #129 | |
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There is no official confiscation, do you think he will sign this highly weakened bill?
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January 15, 2013, 05:08 PM | #130 |
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I am kind of hoping people just get up and leave New York... Works better than a petition... But I know that is also really hard in these dark economic times.
Hal: weren't you a mod?
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January 15, 2013, 05:11 PM | #131 |
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We shouldn't be encouraging people to leave NY, we should be encouraging people from the gun happy states to move to NY and help them set things straight
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January 15, 2013, 05:12 PM | #132 |
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Is this law 10 years like the previous ban or is it until it is overturned in the future (one can hope).
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I know I'm an idealist, but sincerely enough is enough... Isn't time for the SCOTUS to spell it all out... I'm sure they won't, but we seem to be on the verge of a constitutional crisis... at least in my view of the world... My crystal ball says tomorrow isn't going to make things better... I hope to be wrong.
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I managed to be just obnoxious enough to escape that horrid fate, but, not so much so that I got bounced . Quote:
or will be once it's signed. There's no sunset provision like the federal ban in 1994. "Permanent" is also a subjective term. Any or all of it is open to challange at some point by someone - but - I believe the legal term for that "someone" is that they have to have standing. Since the law doesn't affect me, I can't challange it. I have no standing. Last edited by Hal; January 15, 2013 at 05:33 PM. |
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January 15, 2013, 05:44 PM | #136 |
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January 15, 2013, 05:48 PM | #137 | |
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Signed, Sealed, Delivered:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/16/ny...%2Findex.jsonp Quote:
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January 15, 2013, 05:51 PM | #138 | |
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Help me out here...
OK, one thing is still unclear to me after searching the text of the law several times.
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January 15, 2013, 05:51 PM | #139 |
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I wonder if gun makers would bother making 7 round magazines.
Does this affect police forces or are they not affected by these laws? If not maybe gun makers could ban the sale of these evil devices to everyone in the state...
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I don't know enough about the remainder of NY state law to offer any comments myself.
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January 15, 2013, 06:20 PM | #141 |
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I am a resident of NY state with a pistol permit and I have 2 pistols right now. One being a S&W Bodyguard 380 which only comes with a 6rd mag anyways. My other gun is a Ruger SR9C. So if I can no longer possess the 10rd mags that came with it and have to sell them out of state within a year, what if Ruger doesn't start making 7rd mags? Is that a possibility? Then what, I have a gun I paid over $400 for that is a paper weight? What about my friend who is also a LEGAL gun owner and owns a gen 3 Glock 19. He currently has "pre ban" high cap mags for it, meaning pre 1994. Will he be forced to sell these as well? I can't imagine gun manufacturers being too happy about possibly having to make all new magazines specifically for NY state.
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Our government is full of simple minded fools, I cant even express how disgusted I am. The major crisis in this country right now is our economy. All this gun control spiel if passed will put countless people out of business and countless people out of jobs. In a time where our country needs every penny it can get, they are doing their best to shut down an entire industry. |
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January 15, 2013, 06:25 PM | #143 |
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@Bubsy: I was referring to the 10 rd mags.
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January 15, 2013, 06:31 PM | #144 |
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Brian , the NY pols have never been able to understand why people continue to leave NY. High taxes ,difficulty in starting and running a business, never ending increase in regulations ,and now the gun ban .
The numbers game is crazy, first Bloomberg with 16 oz sodas, I could buy 2 or 3 8 oz. Cuomo 10 rd mag is ok but you only can load them with 7 bullets [ie cartridges]. I guess now I'll have to carry three 1911s .[that's 3x7 =21 !] That beats 2x17 ! I'm glad I have an engineering background so I can understand those big numbers !! Unfortunately I,m not in a position to leave the state.
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January 15, 2013, 06:38 PM | #146 |
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"I wonder if gun makers would bother making 7 round magazines."
Companies are in business to make a profit. What would be better for them than having millions of their previous products made useless and a new market for millions of new product created with the stroke of a pen. I'd bet some of the larger high capacity magazine makers are already jumping up and down for joy and having preliminary meetings to discuss the new gold rush for them. Magazines do not take the level of re-tooling for manufacturing as does items more complex. |
January 15, 2013, 06:44 PM | #147 |
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hey does anybody have detailed info about NYS gun control?
Hey I'm a Western New Yorker and I heard about the new restrictions. so can we still buy/own new semi-auto .22 rifles? (I'm sure pre-banned purchases can still be owned and registered) and i have a pump-action shotgun with a collapsible stock. is that legal? i saw the restriction says that a semi-auto shotty can have one military feature but i couldnt find any statutes on pump-action shotguns. also does it say something about banning "semi-automatic pistols"? does that mean if my pistol permit goes through (which i dont think it will now), ill be limited to buying revolvers, derringers, and liberator 1-shot handguns like the WWII american pilots used to carry?
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January 15, 2013, 06:54 PM | #148 |
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http://www.myfoxny.com/story/2059015...nder-lock-down
And we also have to turn in our lever action , lime green Nerf guns !!!
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January 15, 2013, 07:07 PM | #150 |
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I doubt that it was accidental that NY picked the 7 round number. They almost certainly realize most semi autos will become useless in NY because magazines will not be availaable.
Would it be possible to modify a magazine by pinning it to limit it to 7 rds? If so would it make a magazine legal? |
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