AOW semi-auto 12-gage?

FSCJedi · October 27, 2007, 11:19 PM

Do these exist? If you can order a pump shotgun from the manufacturer w/o a stock or with only a pistol grip, couldn't it be done for a semi-auto? Does anyone make/sell these?

joab · October 27, 2007, 11:32 PM

Just marking this to follow the discussion
This is something I have been thinking about

VUPDblue · October 28, 2007, 10:35 AM

Either of these would hurt... I know I have seen an 1100 somewhere. I'll keep looking

CleverNickname · October 28, 2007, 06:36 PM

VUPDblue, those would still be SBSes, unless whoever made them found a source for virgin Saiga-12 and 1100 receivers.

VUPDblue · October 28, 2007, 11:16 PM

That may very well be, but it could be construed that the magazine was "intended to be gripped with a second hand" which would put it into the AOW category. I just found those pics and they illustrate what an auto AOW may look like. I know there are 1100 AOW's out there, I've seen one in person, I just can't find the pic.

CleverNickname · October 29, 2007, 11:09 AM

The whole "gripped with a second hand" thing only matters if the gun would otherwise be a pistol. But the Saigas and 1100s all had shoulder stocks (unless someone somehow got one of the aforementioned virgin receivers) so they would be shotguns and the number of grips doesn't make a difference.

shaggy · October 29, 2007, 11:17 AM

Anyone know how the receiver of a Siaga matches up against a standard AK receiver? If they're the same, an AOW could be built off a virgin AK receiver with Siaga parts stripped from a complete weapon. A lot of added expense to be sure, but it would then get to an auto AOW for those who couldn't get a SBS.

AmesJainchill · November 4, 2007, 12:09 PM

Given the difference in size of the cartridges, I would not think that would be possible, but, hey, anything can happen.

kym · November 11, 2007, 10:19 PM

That's a heck of a gun!

TireFryer · November 15, 2007, 10:35 AM

I think Serbu offers a 12 gauge, not sure if it falls under AOW or SBR...
There are also some Remington 870 12Ga AOWs out there...

lemons · November 21, 2007, 02:50 AM

an 11-87 aow just sold on Gunbroker for $830

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=85138257

FSCJedi · November 22, 2007, 11:03 AM

See, it's somethin' like that that I'm lookin' for. Man, I wish I'd have caught that auction. Well, at least I know that they are still around and it is possible.

SpookBoy · December 12, 2007, 10:58 AM

i've seen a browning auto 5 once, but cant seem to find the picture now.

Yellowstone · December 12, 2007, 11:57 AM

Wow, the AOW 11-87 actually has a vented rib and front sight. The AOW 870 I've seen have no bead (or rib).

For those who know, doesn't an AOW need to be manufactured at a factory in the AOW configuration in order to be considered an AOW?

VUPDblue · December 12, 2007, 01:25 PM

It needs only to be manufactured without a shoulder stock.

October 27, 2007, 11:19 PM	#1
FSCJedi Junior Member Join Date: September 22, 2002 Location: The Mountains in the East Posts: 14	AOW semi-auto 12-gage? Do these exist? If you can order a pump shotgun from the manufacturer w/o a stock or with only a pistol grip, couldn't it be done for a semi-auto? Does anyone make/sell these? __________________ "I said I never had much use for [a pistol], I never said I didn't know how to use one." Molon Labe!

October 27, 2007, 11:32 PM	#2
joab Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Orl Fla Posts: 3,254	Just marking this to follow the discussion This is something I have been thinking about __________________ Joab the Bugman Founding member- Lords of Pomposity It's a Yankee Doodle thing

October 28, 2007, 10:35 AM	#3
VUPDblue Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2005 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 1,981	Either of these would hurt... I know I have seen an 1100 somewhere. I'll keep looking __________________ Silencers have NEVER been illegal !

October 28, 2007, 11:16 PM	#5
VUPDblue Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2005 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 1,981	That may very well be, but it could be construed that the magazine was "intended to be gripped with a second hand" which would put it into the AOW category. I just found those pics and they illustrate what an auto AOW may look like. I know there are 1100 AOW's out there, I've seen one in person, I just can't find the pic. __________________ Silencers have NEVER been illegal !

November 22, 2007, 11:03 AM	#12
FSCJedi Junior Member Join Date: September 22, 2002 Location: The Mountains in the East Posts: 14	See, it's somethin' like that that I'm lookin' for. Man, I wish I'd have caught that auction. Well, at least I know that they are still around and it is possible. __________________ "I said I never had much use for [a pistol], I never said I didn't know how to use one." Molon Labe!

October 28, 2007, 06:36 PM	#4
CleverNickname Member Join Date: August 3, 2002 Posts: 69	VUPDblue, those would still be SBSes, unless whoever made them found a source for virgin Saiga-12 and 1100 receivers.

October 29, 2007, 11:09 AM	#6
CleverNickname Member Join Date: August 3, 2002 Posts: 69	The whole "gripped with a second hand" thing only matters if the gun would otherwise be a pistol. But the Saigas and 1100s all had shoulder stocks (unless someone somehow got one of the aforementioned virgin receivers) so they would be shotguns and the number of grips doesn't make a difference.

October 29, 2007, 11:17 AM	#7
shaggy Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2004 Posts: 1,519	Anyone know how the receiver of a Siaga matches up against a standard AK receiver? If they're the same, an AOW could be built off a virgin AK receiver with Siaga parts stripped from a complete weapon. A lot of added expense to be sure, but it would then get to an auto AOW for those who couldn't get a SBS.

November 4, 2007, 12:09 PM	#8
AmesJainchill Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2006 Posts: 278	Given the difference in size of the cartridges, I would not think that would be possible, but, hey, anything can happen.

November 11, 2007, 10:19 PM	#9
kym Member Join Date: October 12, 2005 Posts: 47	That's a heck of a gun!

November 15, 2007, 10:35 AM	#10
TireFryer Junior Member Join Date: April 3, 2006 Posts: 11	I think Serbu offers a 12 gauge, not sure if it falls under AOW or SBR... There are also some Remington 870 12Ga AOWs out there...

November 21, 2007, 02:50 AM	#11
lemons Junior Member Join Date: April 24, 2007 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 6	an 11-87 aow just sold on Gunbroker for $830 http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=85138257

December 12, 2007, 10:58 AM	#13
SpookBoy Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2006 Location: mid tennessee Posts: 430	i've seen a browning auto 5 once, but cant seem to find the picture now. __________________ We all love gun p*rn, weather shes skinny,fat,short or tall, God made a man to love them all! "Once you familiarize yourself with the chains of bondage , You prepare your own limbs to wear them." - Abraham Lincoln

December 12, 2007, 11:57 AM	#14
Yellowstone Member Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 34	Wow, the AOW 11-87 actually has a vented rib and front sight. The AOW 870 I've seen have no bead (or rib). For those who know, doesn't an AOW need to be manufactured at a factory in the AOW configuration in order to be considered an AOW? __________________ Yellowstone

December 12, 2007, 01:25 PM	#15
VUPDblue Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2005 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 1,981	It needs only to be manufactured without a shoulder stock. __________________ Silencers have NEVER been illegal !

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