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Old September 28, 2022, 03:53 PM   #26
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All "slung". Bit of a hike to my hunting area.
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Old September 28, 2022, 06:18 PM   #27
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thanks, I figured they would be. Back in the 60s/70s it was still common to see the Marlin/Winchester lever guns unslung and carried in the hands, but today, most folks see the advantage of a sling as a carry strap, at the least.

I'd still pick the Marlin for that area, the only thing I have against the .32 Special is the tendency for SOME of them to lose accuracy or have a radical shift in point of impact for no apparent reason.

By no means ALL of them, but some have done it, I've seen it more than once. Even my father's Win 94 .32Special had the point of impact shift so that it was hitting 6" low at 50yds when the previous year it was fine and the rifle was stored identically to what it had experienced for years.

Some say its the twist, I don't know, what I do know is that I've seen .32s go sour with no detectable wear to the barrel, or anything else. Same exact guns in .30-30 just don't seem to do it. Go figure...

If its shoot "on" the Marlin will be a fine choice and a little bit handier in thick cover than the longer barreled rifles.
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Old October 4, 2022, 06:14 PM   #28
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Winchester 100 Carbine .308

My go to deer rifle is a Winchester 100 carbine in .308.
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Old October 5, 2022, 12:31 PM   #29
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I'd choose the Ruger 77 1977 22" 1977 Leupold 2-7X 7x57 140 Sierra 2,829. The scope power range is the deciding factor.
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Old October 5, 2022, 05:02 PM   #30
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I would use the rifle I could shoot best .
More to the point ... the rifle I could place the very First shot most accurately .
Usually it's the first shot ... that gets the job done , so the rifle you can place the first bullet accurately with and do it quickly ... is the one to go with .

The stock needs to fit and the sights need to come to aim automatically and the shot fired effortlessly ... the caliber doesn't matter ... Making the first shot count matters .

I have an old model 95 Mauser in 7X57 in a Herter's sporter stock that fits me like this.
I can shoot and hit with my eyes closed ( well one eye closed at dusk anyways)
I didn't bed the triggerguard/magazine housing exactly right so it will feed only the top round but that's OK ... I have never needed a second shot ...that's the gun I hunt deer and hogs with !
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Old October 6, 2022, 11:15 AM   #31
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My "Go-To" deer-hunting rifle is one of four Rem. 700 rifles that I own, Two 270 Win, and two .243 Win. I used to have a .30-06, but gave it to my son.
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Old October 6, 2022, 02:02 PM   #32
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According to the Speer #9 Manual in their reference section, the Marlin and Winchester rifles have a 1 in 12" twist. The .32 Winchester special guns have a 1 in 16" twist. The 30-30 fouled badly during the early days when black powder was used to reload the cartridges. The twist was just too fast for black powder loads. Thus, Winchester brought out the .32 WS. If could shoot the smokeless powder load fairly well and those who preferred black powder could do so without the heavy barrel fouling. The 1 in 16" twist that was used was the same as the black powder 32-40 Winchester.
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Old October 7, 2022, 11:41 AM   #33
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Can't go wrong with the Marlin although I have a Model 77 that I use just as much.

With regard to the sling I don't hunt without one. I don't always keep it on the gun though. I may take it off from time to time but always have it with me.

Brush deflects anything that hits it. If the brush is really close to the animal it might not deflect enough to matter but the father away to brush and the animal is the deflection is going to be significant. That's not even considering how much the bullet will deform.
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Old October 8, 2022, 10:00 AM   #34
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A few years back I finished a 7x57 mauser build and that rifle is going deer hunting with me this year.
It has a Shilen Match with a 1:8.25 inch twist barrel.. #3 profile, 22". It adores 175 grn SBT's from Sierra and 7828 powder...
3-9×40 Leupold scope... Shots will be less than 100 yds...
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Old October 9, 2022, 05:03 PM   #35
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Seems like a great rifle. How about a picture?
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Old October 9, 2022, 06:45 PM   #36
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"A few years back I finished a 7x57 mauser build and that rifle is going deer hunting with me this year.
It has a Shilen Match with a 1:8.25 inch twist barrel.. #3 profile, 22". It adores 175 grn SBT's from Sierra and 7828 powder..."


If I may be so bold, would you mind telling me the load for the bullet using 7828 Powder? I bought a bunch of it for a .280 Rem. and the .280 and that powder don't get along all that well... TIA.
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Old October 11, 2022, 11:41 AM   #37
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At that range I dont think I would use a scope unless I had eye issues. If it was me I would go with the Marlin.
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Old October 11, 2022, 07:32 PM   #38
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I'd probably be most comfortable with the Marlin, but I normally use a Rem 700 BDL, 3-9X scope, in .270 Win and would take that, if available. It's made one-shot kills on deer from 20 to 300 yards.
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Old October 20, 2022, 11:13 AM   #39
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I happen to love bolt-actions. My deer rifle is a .270 Win, Remington 700 Stainless that shoots one-hole groups at 100 yards. I free-floated the barrel, pillar-bedded the action, and mounted a great Leupold 3-9X Stainless scope on her.

She's gotten several deer, including one buck, shot Left-Handed, as it ran away from my tree-stand. I may have that rifle buried with me, but not planning to pass, for quite a few years.
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Old October 20, 2022, 04:55 PM   #40
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My favorite eastern deer guns don’t have scopes. Rem 141 / 35 cal, Win 1895 in 30/06 and Marlin Maurader 30/30. This year recovering from some health issues will be hunting from stand with a Ruger#3 in 375 Win. Limited to straight case cartridges in Ohio. I’m running a scope on in. I never hunt from stand and usually under 100yd shot. SE Ohio ruff and thick my deer usually taken on the “wing”. I have bolt guns with scopes don’t like they in the woods.
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Old October 29, 2022, 02:37 PM   #41
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I'd probably carry the 7x57. Any of the three will work but both .250 Savage and .32 Special are sliding dangerously close to what I'd consider minimum power for whitetail. Still within the acceptable range, but very close to the edge of it.

7x57 on the other hand is in the "optimal" range of the scale rather than merely being "acceptable".

FWIW my go-to cartridge for whitetail is 7mm-08 which is ballistically nearly the same as 7x57. I've hunted with as low of power as .225 Winchester and as high as .30-06 but to me 7mm-08 is "just right".
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Old October 29, 2022, 08:03 PM   #42
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Of those choices, I would opt for 7x57. I have a 7-08 which is very similar
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Old October 31, 2022, 06:18 AM   #43
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Picher, I cant download pics on here correctly.
The load is 47 grains of 7828 and a 175 grn SBT from Sierra, coal 3.089..
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The load is 47 grains of 7828 and a 175 grn SBT from Sierra, coal 3.089..
IF you're talking about 7x57mm Mauser, industry standard max coal is 3.065".
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Old October 31, 2022, 02:31 PM   #45
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"Picher, I cant download pics on here correctly.
The load is 47 grains of 7828 and a 175 grn SBT from Sierra, coal 3.089.."

Thank you.
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Old October 31, 2022, 03:38 PM   #46
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I'd take the Ruger 7mm. It has the best deer caliber/scope range of the bunch.
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Old November 1, 2022, 07:10 AM   #47
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I'd be happy with the 32 Marlin. Same lethal performance as the famous 30-30 cartridge.
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Old November 1, 2022, 10:54 AM   #48
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7mm Mauser is a grand cartridge for deer. (7x57)

I have been using a 7X30 Waters for excellent results and low recoil.

Good luck!
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Old November 10, 2022, 11:13 AM   #49
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The 7 x 57 will do anything the others can do, can't say the reverse of that.
Great scope and rifle too.
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Old November 10, 2022, 03:48 PM   #50
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I like the Ruger 77 with the 2-7x Leupold. The 7x57 would handle things pretty well.
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