Why is a particular pistol your best and your most accurate? - Page 2

Doc Holliday 1950 · August 9, 2018, 10:09 PM

If I'm carrying a semi its my G19 gen 4. If i'm carrying my revolver its my S&W
686+ 3".

pete2 · August 10, 2018, 08:46 AM

I can't answer this...took Python, S&W 19, Colt .38 Trooper S&W 15 to the range shot all 4. Best group was with the 15. Don't prove a thing. Now for the 28, 586, 686 etc.

JJ45 · August 11, 2018, 04:54 AM

Nothing is more important than reliability. So, IMO, reliability trumps accuracy.

XDm9, XD9 Service- 1000 plus rounds and NO malfunctions of any kind.
Colt 1911, LW Commander .45- about 450 rounds and three or four FTF, FTE

Even though the Colt is a bit more accurate than the XDs in my hands its not enough of a difference to be more important than reliability....I have more confidence in the XDs.

The point I am making is my best isn't my most accurate. My best is my most dependable.

rock185 · September 4, 2018, 02:01 PM

I have several very accurate pistols and revolvers. I can only say that, with centerfire pistols and revolvers, nothing has grouped better for me than the SIG P210 pistols. I have others that have equaled the 210's accuracy upon occasion, but none have bettered it in my hands.
Reliability trumps all else for me too. I don't tend to keep guns of questionable reliability for long.

Best, I don't know. We're fortunate to have such a wide variety of quality firearms available to us nowadays. I guess it comes down to how each of us defines "best".

gwpercle · September 4, 2018, 02:44 PM

A Ruger MKII , it was worked over buy Clark Custom Gunns .
An accuracy/ reliability and target trigger job was preformed . Then a Red Dot sight was mounted .

Just thinking about shooting it puts a smile on my face , the trigger pull is like kissing a pretty girl...just magical , place the red dot on your target and simply think "dead center" and it's hit ..... I don't know what they do at Clark Custom Guns but you should have them do you a target trigger before cashing out your chips .
Gary

unclejack37 · September 6, 2018, 04:31 PM

All of my guns are accurate enough in that if I have to use them in a defensive mode, the other guy ain't walking away. There's one exception and that's a Davis .25 cal Derringer I had to take it away from my dad after he threaten a couple of bikers. Good thing they had a sense of humor. My dad was 87 at the time. I shot it and couldn't hit anything pass 3 feet.

**44 AMP** · September 8, 2018, 11:49 AM

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Nothing is more important than reliability. So, IMO, reliability trumps accuracy.

Not to downplay the vital importance of reliability, but, if you can't hit what you're aiming at (accuracy) all you have is a reliable noisemaker.

One needs a sufficient amount of BOTH. As to what that amount is, that's your personal call.

willr · September 8, 2018, 03:22 PM

Most accurate is my S&W 15-3 38special. I think it may have had a trigger job before I got it from a range which went out of business--city took their property by eminent domain for a parking lot. (Yes, I know. What an underhanded way to close down on firearms!)
willr

peterg7 · September 8, 2018, 03:50 PM

I must be blessed because of all the handguns I’ve owned there has been no reliability issues( including P-11 ). But some had accuracy issues in my hands.

Both issues can only be assessed after purchase and maybe I’ve dodged the reliability issue because I’m very brand/model selective.

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Ben Dover · September 8, 2018, 04:24 PM

Most accurate from a bench rest: Colt Python with "Targetmaster" 148 HBWC ammo, and Colt gold Cup NM with 185 grain semi-wadcutters. (Girl scout loads.

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Most accurate and reliable off hand is my SIG P226 9MM with Federal 9BPLE 115 grain +P+.

Oldman11 · September 9, 2018, 05:30 AM

My most accurate are revolvers in this order
Sw k.32 masterpiece
Sw model 57 .41 mag
Sw model 27 .357 mag
Sw model 29 .44 mag
Sw model 686 .357 mag
Sw model 66 .357 mag
Ruger Blackhawk .45 acp-.45 colt
The Only auto is a ruger .22 mark lll that is very accurate also.

jar · September 9, 2018, 07:59 AM

I'm not sure I can claim any single handgun as most accurate or even most reliable. I've had fewer failures to fire with revolvers than with my bottom feeders. BUT, given the ammunition a particular example prefers the reliability becomes about the same as with a revolver. Then there is accuracy. At 3 yards to 7 yards most all of them are equally accurate. At shorter distances my little fixed barrel handguns like a Sig 230 or East German Makarov are amazingly accurate. Move out to 15 yards and the longer barrel longer sight line handguns become more accurate. Take out defensive drills and my 6" Dan Wesson 15-2 probably gets the nod on accuracy. Then there is weight and inertia; a Smith 4" 27/28 seems more repeatable than a Smith 4" 19. My Smith 19-5 with target trigger & hammer & adjustable sights and some trigger work is slightly more accurate then my 100 year old Colt Army Special.

The big BUT in all of that is "How accurate am I on a given day" and that truly is a variable.

Road_Clam · September 10, 2018, 06:41 AM

None of my handguns are accurate, they are handguns. If I were to answer which of my handguns can I shoot the tightest and most consistent groupings ? , that would be my Ruger GP100 6" in 357 mag. I gauge my comparative precision by shooting at 50' supported off a tripod rest and some of my semi handgun groups look pretty ugly ! LOL

ManyMag · September 19, 2018, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Drm50

I would have to say my original S&W m17 K22. From years of carrying and the
thousands of rounds I've put through its my go to 22 handgun. That's a hard
choice because I have target pistols that will outshoot it on the range or at
least shoot as good. I even have other K22s that I can't seem to shoot as well
as my original that I got new in 1964. In fact all my handguns are target grade.
The only 3 guns that don't make this cut are old 3screw Rugers.

Same here. My first K22 still outshines my others.

Martowski · September 19, 2018, 11:37 PM

At 25 yards, it gets difficult for me to determine which of my pistols is most accurate between the Les Baer PII, S&W PC1911, Sig P210 American, and the Dan Wesson Pointman 9.

At 7 or 10 yards, any service grade pistol will shoot. But the plastic striker fired guns can't run with the ones mentioned above past 50 ft.

Erno86 · September 20, 2018, 08:40 AM

My 1911 Kimber Eclipse - 45acp - Winchester 185 grain LSWC

aarondhgraham · September 20, 2018, 09:42 AM

I honestly have no idea which of my pistols is (are) the most accurate,,,
There are just too many variables in the shooting process,,,
Not the least is my general old age.

I can tell you which I hit the best with though,,,
And that (those) would be my mid-size to compact size guns.

Bersa Thunder 380
Ruger LC9
Bersa Thunder UC 9mm

I believe that it has to do with those guns being natural pointers for me,,,
What I mean is that I really don't use the sights very much.

But even when I do take careful aim,,,
I'm only marginally better with my full size CZ-75B.

For me it seems the smaller the pistol,,,
The better I am with it.

Aarond

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M88 · September 20, 2018, 05:42 PM

LOTS of variables when it comes to my guns, and I bought and fire each for different reasons. But the MOST ACCURATE consistently is my Ruger 22/45 with a red dot. That said... because I've become good with it, I don't give other guns as much range time if I'm going for accuracy. So... there might be a few others that would do as well if I practiced enough with them. I think if I put a red dot on it and spent more time with my Beretta U22 NEOS it may give that 22/45 a run for it's money. There is never enough time to shoot guns!

Rob228 · September 20, 2018, 06:49 PM

Quality of the worksmanship + the amount I practice with that particular handgun.

August 9, 2018, 10:09 PM	#26
Doc Holliday 1950 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2014 Location: Bout as south as it gets Posts: 1,238	If I'm carrying a semi its my G19 gen 4. If i'm carrying my revolver its my S&W 686+ 3". __________________ Shoot well and be Accurate, Doc

August 11, 2018, 04:54 AM	#28
JJ45 Senior Member Join Date: June 8, 2015 Posts: 908	Nothing is more important than reliability. So, IMO, reliability trumps accuracy. XDm9, XD9 Service- 1000 plus rounds and NO malfunctions of any kind. Colt 1911, LW Commander .45- about 450 rounds and three or four FTF, FTE Even though the Colt is a bit more accurate than the XDs in my hands its not enough of a difference to be more important than reliability....I have more confidence in the XDs. The point I am making is my best isn't my most accurate. My best is my most dependable. Last edited by JJ45; August 11, 2018 at 03:51 PM.

September 4, 2018, 02:01 PM	#29
rock185 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2001 Location: Out West in Rim Country Posts: 1,093	I have several very accurate pistols and revolvers. I can only say that, with centerfire pistols and revolvers, nothing has grouped better for me than the SIG P210 pistols. I have others that have equaled the 210's accuracy upon occasion, but none have bettered it in my hands. Reliability trumps all else for me too. I don't tend to keep guns of questionable reliability for long. Best, I don't know. We're fortunate to have such a wide variety of quality firearms available to us nowadays. I guess it comes down to how each of us defines "best". __________________ COTEP 640, NRA Life Last edited by rock185; September 4, 2018 at 02:15 PM.

September 8, 2018, 04:24 PM	#35
Ben Dover Senior Member Join Date: April 11, 2013 Location: High up in the Rocky Moun Posts: 665	Most accurate from a bench rest: Colt Python with "Targetmaster" 148 HBWC ammo, and Colt gold Cup NM with 185 grain semi-wadcutters. (Girl scout loads.) Most accurate and reliable off hand is my SIG P226 9MM with Federal 9BPLE 115 grain +P+. __________________ The soldier's pack is not so heavy a burden as the prisoner's chains. Dwight Eisenhower It is very important what a man stands for. But it is far more important what a man refuses to stand for.

September 9, 2018, 07:59 AM	#37
jar Senior Member Join Date: March 8, 2001 Location: Deep South Texas Posts: 1,669	I'm not sure I can claim any single handgun as most accurate or even most reliable. I've had fewer failures to fire with revolvers than with my bottom feeders. BUT, given the ammunition a particular example prefers the reliability becomes about the same as with a revolver. Then there is accuracy. At 3 yards to 7 yards most all of them are equally accurate. At shorter distances my little fixed barrel handguns like a Sig 230 or East German Makarov are amazingly accurate. Move out to 15 yards and the longer barrel longer sight line handguns become more accurate. Take out defensive drills and my 6" Dan Wesson 15-2 probably gets the nod on accuracy. Then there is weight and inertia; a Smith 4" 27/28 seems more repeatable than a Smith 4" 19. My Smith 19-5 with target trigger & hammer & adjustable sights and some trigger work is slightly more accurate then my 100 year old Colt Army Special. The big BUT in all of that is "How accurate am I on a given day" and that truly is a variable. __________________ To be vintage it's gotta be older than me!

August 10, 2018, 08:46 AM	#27
pete2 Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 2,566	I can't answer this...took Python, S&W 19, Colt .38 Trooper S&W 15 to the range shot all 4. Best group was with the 15. Don't prove a thing. Now for the 28, 586, 686 etc.

September 4, 2018, 02:44 PM	#30
gwpercle Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 2012 Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana Posts: 1,752	A Ruger MKII , it was worked over buy Clark Custom Gunns . An accuracy/ reliability and target trigger job was preformed . Then a Red Dot sight was mounted . Just thinking about shooting it puts a smile on my face , the trigger pull is like kissing a pretty girl...just magical , place the red dot on your target and simply think "dead center" and it's hit ..... I don't know what they do at Clark Custom Guns but you should have them do you a target trigger before cashing out your chips . Gary

September 6, 2018, 04:31 PM	#31
unclejack37 Junior member Join Date: October 3, 2014 Location: Delaware Posts: 121	All of my guns are accurate enough in that if I have to use them in a defensive mode, the other guy ain't walking away. There's one exception and that's a Davis .25 cal Derringer I had to take it away from my dad after he threaten a couple of bikers. Good thing they had a sense of humor. My dad was 87 at the time. I shot it and couldn't hit anything pass 3 feet.

September 8, 2018, 03:22 PM	#33
willr Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2006 Posts: 356	Most accurate is my S&W 15-3 38special. I think it may have had a trigger job before I got it from a range which went out of business--city took their property by eminent domain for a parking lot. (Yes, I know. What an underhanded way to close down on firearms!) willr

September 8, 2018, 03:50 PM	#34
peterg7 Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2017 Posts: 316	I must be blessed because of all the handguns I’ve owned there has been no reliability issues( including P-11 ). But some had accuracy issues in my hands. Both issues can only be assessed after purchase and maybe I’ve dodged the reliability issue because I’m very brand/model selective. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

September 9, 2018, 05:30 AM	#36
Oldman11 Member Join Date: April 28, 2016 Posts: 77	My most accurate are revolvers in this order Sw k.32 masterpiece Sw model 57 .41 mag Sw model 27 .357 mag Sw model 29 .44 mag Sw model 686 .357 mag Sw model 66 .357 mag Ruger Blackhawk .45 acp-.45 colt The Only auto is a ruger .22 mark lll that is very accurate also.

September 10, 2018, 06:41 AM	#38
Road_Clam Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2013 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 1,695	None of my handguns are accurate, they are handguns. If I were to answer which of my handguns can I shoot the tightest and most consistent groupings ? , that would be my Ruger GP100 6" in 357 mag. I gauge my comparative precision by shooting at 50' supported off a tripod rest and some of my semi handgun groups look pretty ugly ! LOL __________________ "To be old an wise you must have been young and stupid"

September 19, 2018, 11:37 PM	#40
Martowski Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2000 Location: Texas (By Way of Illinois) Posts: 1,376	At 25 yards, it gets difficult for me to determine which of my pistols is most accurate between the Les Baer PII, S&W PC1911, Sig P210 American, and the Dan Wesson Pointman 9. At 7 or 10 yards, any service grade pistol will shoot. But the plastic striker fired guns can't run with the ones mentioned above past 50 ft. __________________ Midwestern Ramblings (my amateur firearms blog): http://martowski.wordpress.com/

September 20, 2018, 08:40 AM	#41
Erno86 Senior Member Join Date: September 22, 2012 Location: Marriottsville, Maryland Posts: 1,739	My 1911 Kimber Eclipse - 45acp - Winchester 185 grain LSWC __________________ That rifle hanging on the wall of the working class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." --- George Orwell

September 20, 2018, 09:42 AM	#42
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	I honestly have no idea which of my pistols is (are) the most accurate,,, There are just too many variables in the shooting process,,, Not the least is my general old age. I can tell you which I hit the best with though,,, And that (those) would be my mid-size to compact size guns. Bersa Thunder 380 Ruger LC9 Bersa Thunder UC 9mm I believe that it has to do with those guns being natural pointers for me,,, What I mean is that I really don't use the sights very much. But even when I do take careful aim,,, I'm only marginally better with my full size CZ-75B. For me it seems the smaller the pistol,,, The better I am with it. Aarond . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

September 20, 2018, 05:42 PM	#43
M88 Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2018 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 278	LOTS of variables when it comes to my guns, and I bought and fire each for different reasons. But the MOST ACCURATE consistently is my Ruger 22/45 with a red dot. That said... because I've become good with it, I don't give other guns as much range time if I'm going for accuracy. So... there might be a few others that would do as well if I practiced enough with them. I think if I put a red dot on it and spent more time with my Beretta U22 NEOS it may give that 22/45 a run for it's money. There is never enough time to shoot guns! __________________ NRA life member. Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless!

September 20, 2018, 06:49 PM	#44
Rob228 Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2010 Location: Hampstead NC Posts: 1,450	Quality of the worksmanship + the amount I practice with that particular handgun.