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Old August 7, 2018, 10:22 PM   #26
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If shooting someone does not stop him by the previously mentioned factors, you have to wait on blood loss.
You go ahead and wait for blood loss, I'm going to shoot them AGAIN!! And again until they cease to be a threat.

And to be technical, its loss of blood pressure (to the brain) that stops them.
If you take out the main pump, the pressure drops pretty fast. Not instantly, no, but pretty fast. Likewise, the more and bigger the holes, the faster blood drains, the faster the pressure drops.

AND, while the difference in diameter between a .25 and a .45 may only be .2" there is a much larger difference in frontal area.

I like bigger bullets, because if there is even a tiny chance that the "small" difference in caliber could be the difference between a bullet that damages a vital blood vessel or nerve and one that just barely misses it, then to me, its worth having.
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Old August 7, 2018, 11:59 PM   #27
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You guys miss my point entirely....
If I thought I would have to shoot someone, I would carry a bazooka!
Since I doubt that I (or you) will have to shoot someone, I prefer to carry a gun that does not weigh a ton, or get in the way of what I'm doing-and that I can easily conceal.
And it sure beats the hell out of not having a gun.
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Old August 8, 2018, 05:43 AM   #28
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You guys miss my point entirely....
If I thought I would have to shoot someone, I would carry a bazooka!
Since I doubt that I (or you) will have to shoot someone, I prefer to carry a gun that does not weigh a ton, or get in the way of what I'm doing-and that I can easily conceal.
And it sure beats the hell out of not having a gun.
No, I get your point; I just don't agree with your caliber preference.
I don't think I'm going to have to shoot someone, hope to God I don't.
You are content to bet your life on lesser calibers.
I have no trouble concealing a pistol in pocket plus another IWB and prefer to bet life on larger / more powerful calibers.
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Old August 8, 2018, 11:32 PM   #29
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If I thought I would have to shoot someone, I would carry a bazooka!
The LAW is more compact, but like the bazooka, accuracy is generally minute of tank...

go with the 90mm recoilless rifle, there's a fletchette round for that,

of course, backblast is an issue...

and I do completely agree, any gun beats no gun when you need a gun.
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