January 24, 2016, 07:24 PM | #1 |
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How many C&R holders?
Does anyone know the number of licenses?
By state? Does ATFE publish any relevant statistics? |
January 24, 2016, 08:21 PM | #2 |
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59713 is the total for the US for 2015.
You can view the listing by state here: https://www.atf.gov/file/99636/download Interesting that Massachusetts has the 2nd largest number of C&R license holders. Last edited by Ernest T; January 24, 2016 at 08:27 PM. |
January 24, 2016, 10:09 PM | #3 |
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Thanks for that link with exactly what I wanted.
Those are really low numbers. Hard to believe there aren't more. I suddenly feel very vulnerable. |
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I took this opportunity to compare the C&R license stats with U.S. Census 2015 population estimates, and I attached a PDF showing not only the numbers, but the rates per population. Green cells denote the Top 10. Red cells denote the Bottom 10. I've excluded Guam from the adult calculations because adult census figures for Guam don't seem to be readily available, and I've excluded the U.S. Virgin Islands (VI) and the Northern Mariana Islands (MP) entirely because there are apparently no C&R FFLs there. Some interesting takeaways:
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The numbers of C&R holders is dropping. The total number in the US was over 64000 in 2013. I'm not sure what is the reason. Maybe less availability of these types of firearms for collectors, the anti-gun campaign, guys completing their collections (I doubt this ever happens ), or no money to buy the ever increasing prices of firearms???
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What exactly does a C&R license allow you to do that the average citizen cannot? I hope that isn't a dumb question but I'm just wondering. I have several milsurps and hope to get more in the future.
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In Illinois C&R firearms are exempt from the waiting periods if you have a C&R license. |
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That is definitely worth having. What makes a gun qualify as a Curio or relic?
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January 26, 2016, 07:55 AM | #9 |
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It's C&R if it's more than 50 years old or it is on the BATFE's C&R list.
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I think that many shooters got a C&R FFL to take advantage of hot deals on these guns, then let their licenses expire once the supply dried up.
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I just let mine expire, for exactly that reason. I may reapply in a year or two.
Washington state's background check law also has no exemption for C&R FFL holders, haven't tried to get one shipped to the door since the law passed, but absent that exemption I'm wondering if the license is even useful unless the firearm is made before 1898. |
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Illinois does not exempt you from a waiting period because you have a C&R. You are exempted on a C&R purchase because it is a dealer-to-dealer exchange. Not all retail dealers will do this. If you purchase the gun through regular NICS, the waiting period applies.
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It used to be on a FAQ on the ISP web site but that page has since disappeared. But the page was copied and pasted on the Illinois Carry page by Illinois NRA lobbyist Todd Vandermyde here: http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index...howtopic=32968 eta: here's an archived version of the ISP FAQ from February 14, 2015: http://web.archive.org/web/201502140...d/ffldinfo.cfm Last edited by Armed_Chicagoan; January 26, 2016 at 07:12 PM. |
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January 26, 2016, 10:30 PM | #14 |
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I think it is equally likely people let it expire because many sellers do not choose to accept a 03 FFL. Atleast half the C&R purchases I made had to go through a normal FFL b/c the seller didn't want to deal with a 03 FFL.
The discount is often enough to make up for the $10 a year though. |
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