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Old April 28, 2018, 08:50 PM   #1
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Ruger 10/22 with Tech Sights for 400 yards target

I am a beginner shooter. I have tech sights on my Ruger 10/22. Is it sufficient to take 400 yards target shooting classes with cci mini mags? Or do I need a scope to be able to practically benefit from the classes?
Thank you for any tips. My eyes are not that great but not bad by the way.
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Old April 28, 2018, 09:50 PM   #2
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Farthest I've shot my 10/22 is about 200 yards, and the drop is about 4 feet with a 50yd zero. At 400 yards I'd look into mortar ballistics ...
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Old April 29, 2018, 06:07 AM   #3
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I shoot at 200 or just a bit more with optics. I've seen some video of guys shooting at 400, (using optics) but I haven't tried it. I'm using a scope with dials and know where to twist the knobs for a 200 yard zero. I doubt that my scope has enough adjustment to get me to 300, let alone 400. I doubt that any iron sights would have that amount of adjustment either.

Start at 50-100 and see how you do. Once you master shooting at those ranges then you'll have a better idea what you can do at longer ranges.
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Old April 29, 2018, 06:33 AM   #4
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Drop at 400 yards will be something like 20 feet.

I suspect a .22 might be unsuitable for such a class.
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Old April 29, 2018, 09:35 AM   #5
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1.5 sight height, 1235 muzzle velocity 40 gr MiniMag with an 100 yd sight in is down
to 709 fps with 244" of drop at 400 yds.

You say "take 400 yd shooting classes"? Have you asked the instructor? I would say no. It's a waste of time, ammo and money.
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Old April 29, 2018, 11:21 AM   #6
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1.5 sight height, 1235 muzzle velocity 40 gr MiniMag with an 100 yd sight in is down
to 709 fps with 244" of drop at 400 yds.

You say "take 400 yd shooting classes"? Have you asked the instructor? I would say no. It's a waste of time, ammo and money.
I did ask. The target is actually set at 200 yards. The instructor said he never shot tech sights so he wasn’t sure. He did mention high verlocity ammo. I guess I will pass. Thank you all for the suggestions
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Old April 29, 2018, 05:14 PM   #7
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Even at 200 yards, wind drift is more a problem than bullet drop. I'm not sure what you expect to learn from this experience except taking a lesson in frustration.
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Old April 30, 2018, 12:24 PM   #8
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"...wind drift is more a problem than bullet drop..." Yep. The wind will blow the little fellows into the ground. A .22 is a 150 yard cartridge at most.
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Old April 30, 2018, 11:32 PM   #9
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Starting out with supersonic ammo will make it impossible to hit anything beyond 150 yds reliably because of trans-sonic buffeting. I have shot out to 300-ish yds using subsonics, but drop is tremendous. I would say for a beginner, if you are going to shoot 400 yds, use a 223 or a 308.
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Old May 1, 2018, 07:17 AM   #10
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Friend of mine use to shoot 22 match out max 200yds @ the Whittington Center.

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Old May 1, 2018, 01:34 PM   #11
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Shooting 200 yards is fun with a .22LR. I put my 6-24x Vortex Viper PST on my old Marlin 25n and I can see the bullets hit the target at 100 and 200 yards in the right light. Wolf target ammo or CCI SV. I set up my 10" gong at 200-225 yards and shoot prone with a rest like F-class.

You'll be correcting for a breeze then a gust will come along and you'll be 12-15" off the target. Gotta time those shots and put up a wind flag.

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Old May 1, 2018, 03:39 PM   #12
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Puts a whole new meaning into the Kentucky Windage aspects!
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Old May 1, 2018, 11:01 PM   #13
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I was shooting my Marlin Model 15 this weekend at 190yds with a Williams peep without problems or a magic wand. I was only banging steel with it, I would question the whole 'long-range instruction' with a .22LR... even at 200yds, however.

OP, it sounds like your Ruger is set up for an Appleseed... is that what you were talking about?
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Old May 3, 2018, 01:30 PM   #14
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Your 10/22 is a decent rifle and with tech sights, should be good out to 100+, even for a beginner. Hang onto that 10/22, .22LR is a great training round, but stretching it past 100 is getting into advanced concepts of drop/windage, when you'll be better served concentrating on your hold and trigger pull.

If you want a reasonably priced 200-400 yard gun, maybe look into a .223/5.56 rifle. Ammo will be more expensive than .22LR, but will be cheaper than just about anything else for those distances. But keep that 10/22: .22LR is a useful cartridge.
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Old May 3, 2018, 01:58 PM   #15
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Shooting 200 yards is fun with a .22LR. I put my 6-24x Vortex Viper PST on my old Marlin 25n and I can see the bullets hit the target at 100 and 200 yards in the right light.
Yowsir! I remember feeling pretty puffed up shooting bullseye targets at 50 FEET.
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Old May 4, 2018, 09:26 AM   #16
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I admit to firing at 200 meters, using the grass line on top of the berm, but it's pretty much a waste of ammo. Grouping at 100 yards is tough enough at our windy range.
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Old May 6, 2018, 02:56 PM   #17
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Go out and give it a try. 200 yards target shooting with a 22 is fun even if you don't score well.

You might actually have better luck with slower target ammo like SK Standard + or CCI SV. The bullets are a little heavier and more streamlined, so even though they start out slower, at 200 yards they're faster and give more consistent results. They are also far less prone to wind drift.

The Tech sights should do well. You may have to adjust your front sight way down for 200 yards.

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