Sig 400 Elite is one hot gun!

Prof Young · September 29, 2019, 12:42 AM

Took the Sig 400 Elite to range today. I've mounted a scope on it and was getting seriously tight groups at 25 yards just leaning up against the side of the range booth. Gotta go out where I can shoot farther and off a sand bag. But after 120 rounds the titanium coated shroud was very hot, especially right about what my left hand naturally gripped it. May want to install a grip of some kind. Also, I thought it would shoot a little more smoothly than my previous AR15, an M&P M15, but it didn't. Are all AR's a kind of crash, bang cacophony of shooting?

Life is good.
Prof Young

kymasabe · September 29, 2019, 07:24 AM

All the AR's I've had seen to cycle and sound similar unless I change recoil springs and/or buffers. I have one or two that like the strike industries flat wound spring, but have another with some kind of wound multi-strand spring...Gieselle maybe? And I think i vaguely remember seeing a silent buffer somewhere...hydraulic maybe. Not sure. I prefer the simple, reliable, noisy buffers.

kymasabe · September 29, 2019, 02:28 PM

https://www.strikeindustries.com/sho...re-spring.html

https://geissele.com/super-42-braide...fer-combo.html

https://www.jprifles.com/1.4.7.2_os.php

https://armaspec.com/product/stealth-recoil-spring/

Rob228 · September 29, 2019, 02:52 PM

They are all loud, its like the rifle version of a Remington 1100; to the shooter the spring and bolt are louder than the actual shot. It'll smooth out as you keep shooting it but the noise won't. To me it is comforting, I know when the magazine runs dry because it sounds incredibly different and I don't feel the bolt go forward.

jetinteriorguy · September 30, 2019, 05:04 AM

I must be weird. I don't notice the spring/buffer making any noise on any of my AR's, but on my Just Right Carbine it's oingo boingo every time.

DubC-Hicks · September 30, 2019, 11:47 AM

Prof Young, both are carbine length gas systems. Both probably also have a standard carbine buffer and spring.

Until you start adding different buffers, springs, muzzle devices, or adjustable gas blocks, both will feel practically identical.

50 shooter · September 30, 2019, 11:55 AM

Pics of rifle haven't loaded yet....

September 29, 2019, 12:42 AM	#1
Prof Young Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2007 Location: Illinois - down state Posts: 2,404	Sig 400 Elite is one hot gun! Took the Sig 400 Elite to range today. I've mounted a scope on it and was getting seriously tight groups at 25 yards just leaning up against the side of the range booth. Gotta go out where I can shoot farther and off a sand bag. But after 120 rounds the titanium coated shroud was very hot, especially right about what my left hand naturally gripped it. May want to install a grip of some kind. Also, I thought it would shoot a little more smoothly than my previous AR15, an M&P M15, but it didn't. Are all AR's a kind of crash, bang cacophony of shooting? Life is good. Prof Young

September 29, 2019, 07:24 AM	#2
kymasabe Senior Member Join Date: June 10, 2005 Location: SW Florida Posts: 2,747	All the AR's I've had seen to cycle and sound similar unless I change recoil springs and/or buffers. I have one or two that like the strike industries flat wound spring, but have another with some kind of wound multi-strand spring...Gieselle maybe? And I think i vaguely remember seeing a silent buffer somewhere...hydraulic maybe. Not sure. I prefer the simple, reliable, noisy buffers. __________________ God's creatures big and small, eat them one, eat them all.

September 29, 2019, 02:28 PM	#3
kymasabe Senior Member Join Date: June 10, 2005 Location: SW Florida Posts: 2,747	https://www.strikeindustries.com/sho...re-spring.html https://geissele.com/super-42-braide...fer-combo.html https://www.jprifles.com/1.4.7.2_os.php https://armaspec.com/product/stealth-recoil-spring/ __________________ God's creatures big and small, eat them one, eat them all.

September 30, 2019, 11:47 AM	#6
DubC-Hicks Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2009 Location: Backwoods, Northern MI Posts: 1,031	Prof Young, both are carbine length gas systems. Both probably also have a standard carbine buffer and spring. Until you start adding different buffers, springs, muzzle devices, or adjustable gas blocks, both will feel practically identical. __________________ ”Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.” ~Unknown

September 30, 2019, 11:55 AM	#7
50 shooter Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2002 Location: SoCal PRK Posts: 986	Pics of rifle haven't loaded yet.... __________________ I see the world thru bloodshot eyes Streets filled with blood from distant lies The dogs of war never compromise, No time for rearranging.

September 29, 2019, 02:52 PM	#4
Rob228 Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2010 Location: Hampstead NC Posts: 1,450	They are all loud, its like the rifle version of a Remington 1100; to the shooter the spring and bolt are louder than the actual shot. It'll smooth out as you keep shooting it but the noise won't. To me it is comforting, I know when the magazine runs dry because it sounds incredibly different and I don't feel the bolt go forward.

September 30, 2019, 05:04 AM	#5
jetinteriorguy Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2013 Posts: 3,176	I must be weird. I don't notice the spring/buffer making any noise on any of my AR's, but on my Just Right Carbine it's oingo boingo every time.