Remington Mohawk 600 collector ????

[Sensai]

Hi, first post so please bear with me!!

I have a Remington Mohawk 600 that I acquired years ago while stationed in Germany. I got it new through the "gun club" on post, not on the German economy. I can not find any information on a Mohawk in this configuration. It has a Manliker (sp?) full length style stock with contrasting pistol grip and forearm caps and cut checkering. Good looking wood, and overall a very good looking little carbine. It's chambered in .243 Winchester, and is a tack driver.

I use it occassionally for deer hunting, and am beginning to think that maybe I should start treating it more as a collector. It's in excellent condition now, but I would hate to find out that it's valuable right after damaging it !!

Any information about this little carbine would be greatly appreciated.

[RJay]

Sensal, are you sure about the Mannlicher stock? Such a stock gos all the way to the end of the barrel, sometimes with a brass tip, sometimes plain wood. The normal Remington 600 has a long forearm in relation to the 18 inch barrel but it's not considered a Mannlicher. I'm unable to find any reference to a full mannicher stock with the 600 or 660.

[Sensai]

I'll try to get some pictures posted this evening. Yes, it is a mannlicher stock. the end cap is even with the muzzle. It has a cheek rest and cut checkering. I am having the same problem finding any reference to this configuration. I know that it is the original stock, because I took it out of the Remington box myself. It is oil finished, and much higher quality than the standard stocks that I have seen from Remington.

[J F Cooper]

The mohawk was an economy line of the remington rifle.. The stock is after market.. JFC

[Sensai]

Mine looks like this except for the serial number. OBTW it is the original stock.
http://www.remingtonsociety.com/gallery/Mohawk-600

[Sensai]

Finally got some pictures, but they're too big. I will post them after I get the file size smaller.

Think I got it right this time. I have close-ups of the left and right side markings, but can only upload three files.

[johnbt]

Looks like a German stock to me and the checkering looks vaguely familiar.

Okay, here's a post I found on-line from someone who has some facts...

"Remington tried in the late 70' to enter the european marked. The Mohawk was dressed in an Anschutz full stock - not anything fancy but the result was a nice looking balanced rifle. There where only made 150 -200 of these. Got one myself. Greetings from Denmark"

[Sensai]

Thanks, Johnbt, that's what I'm thinking. I've got a request for info in to the historian at Remington, so maybe I will have a final and definitive answer soon. As soon as I do, I'll share it. Seems that there are many contrasting oppinions as to where these things originated. If anyone knows for sure, it should be the Remington folks themselves. I just want to know whether to hunt with it this year or not. It's one of my favorite hunting arms, and I'd hate to have to retire it.

[RJay]

Seems as if you've got a rare one. The 600 was build before it's time, now it's in demand as a Scout rifle. Keep us posted on what Remington tells you. That Mannlicher stock looks really nice on a carbine.

[Jim Watson]

Fascinating. I knew Savage tried to get in the European market in cahoots with Anschutz but did not know Remington had made the same effort.

A judge near here once restocked a 660 .350 Magnum in Mannlicher style walnut, with a steel trigger guard instead of the flashy laminated stock and plastic trigger guard.

[DVC9]

Sensai,

Glad I spotted this thread, I also have one of these neat little rifles.

Mine is in .308. It is new unfired in the original box.

The box is brown cardboard with a Remington label with both English and German wording.

A good friend that was stationed in Germany picked it up through the Heidelburg Rod & Gun club, and brought it back.

Like you I am curious as to what they might be worth.

I would think that a good starting point might be the price of a current full stocked Md 7 rifle. After that you can contemplate the collectors value.

It is interesting that only 150-200 are believed to have been produced.

Please IM me if you hear from Remington.

Thanks, M

[elrod]

This is the entry from Blue Book of Gun Values, 29th ed.

MODEL 600 MOHAWK - .222 Rem., 6mm Rem., .243 Win., or .308 Win. cal., this variation was a promotional model, 18 1/2 in. barrel with no rib. 94,920 were mfg. 1971-79

100%--$420
98%--$340
95%--$300
90%--$285
80%--$255
70%--$235
60%--$210

Were there perhaps a few w/ Mannlicher stocks only for overseas, or the entire run was the same? Would be very intrested in Remingtons' answer to your inquiry.

[James K]

Even today there many American sporting guns and lots of ammo sold overseas. I remember several years ago going into a sporting goods store in Stuttgart and seeing a large green and gold banner across the back: "Die Beste Randfeuer Patronen - Remington."

Jim

[DVC9]

Yes the label on my rifles box is in both English & German.

[Sensai]

Just an update. I'm still waiting for word back from Remington, should be soon according to their receipt reply to my initial inquiry.

[DVC9]

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[Sensai]

Just got an e-mail back from Remington. Very discouraging! They tell me that it's a 1968 serial number in the e-mail, and a 1980 serial number over the phone If it's a 1968 serial number then the B series serial numbers were produced BEFORE the A series serial numbers !! If it's a 1980 serial number then it was produced a year AFTER the production run ended!!! The e-mail also stated that it's possible that "it was an export model that would not have been cataloged". I was under the impression that every firearm that came out of a production facility had to be cataloged.

Oh well, I'm just going to take my sweet little 243 and go deer hunting. This collector/non-collector stuff is just too confusing for this old country boy! I just know what I like to shoot, and this one's fine.

Edit: Just took a relook at the Mohawk 600 History I/A/W Remington website. The Mohawk 600 wasn't introduced until 1972 and ran through 1979. I guess it's really rare if it's a 1968 or a 1980!!!

[J F Cooper]

That's the reason I said it was an aftermarker Stock, It wasn't catalogued, however I didn't have access to a European catalogue..JFC

[DVC9]

I don't believe that it is aftermarket. My rifle has a Remington box and is labeled. "Full Stocked rifle" in German.

I can believe that they are perhaps a run made for export that didn't get cataloged.

Don't know if they still do so, but their custom shop used to make Mannlicher stocked rifles. I remember seeing a late 90s catalog that showed a listing for a Md 7 with one. for I believe $1300.

[DVC9]

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