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February 15, 2015, 12:23 PM | #26 | ||
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February 15, 2015, 10:07 PM | #27 |
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Really? Take a good look around, they are pushing those agendas more and more
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February 16, 2015, 12:50 AM | #28 |
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They? They who? The Republicans in control of the House and Senate?
By all means, which Senate/House bill was it that started this "more and more" trend "they" have been up to. I don't know about you, but I'd rather keep my credibility, NOT be the little boy who cried wolf about "them" and their "more and more" agendas when the ACTUAL "they" haven't been in session long enough to have done much of anything, let alone "more and more" of anything. We don't gain much of anything but a reputation for being reactionary anti-government whackos when we blame the government for something they wouldn't do and almost certainly didn't do. Complaining about what isn't there, and would be rather difficult to put there before there's even a hint of anyone trying to really makes us sound like we're using a power drill to find the listening devices in our cheese. |
February 18, 2015, 09:41 PM | #29 |
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They are the same ones that have initiated all the changes after VA. Teah and the Giffords shooting or Newton....
You saw all the new restrictive Fed laws that were a result of those. |
February 18, 2015, 10:21 PM | #30 |
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Retroprocity is constitutinal article 1V section 1
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Section. 1. Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof. Maybe I'm too simple minded but that looks smells and tastes like retroprocity is all ready on the books its this clause that allows us to drive across the country without having to get new license's in each state we go threw why would this be any different Last edited by Buzzard Bait; February 18, 2015 at 10:51 PM. Reason: why not |
February 19, 2015, 09:14 AM | #31 | |
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Keep in mind that it's commonplace for states to license professionals such as architects, barbers, beauticians, contractors, doctors, engineers, nurses, and surveyors, but those licenses generally aren't valid across state lines either.
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February 19, 2015, 10:54 AM | #32 | |
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BUT ... there is no "fundamental" (the word of the Supreme Court, not mine), constitutionally guaranteed right to practice as a professional such as an architect, barber, beautician, contractor, doctor, engineer, nurse, or surveyor. What carry licensing is really saying is that states (with a few exceptions) only respect the constitutional right to carry a firearm for self defense for people from their own state. On top of appearing to be a violation of the full faith and credit clause, how about the equal protection clause? The these states work, their own citizens are "more equal" than those from any other state. |
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February 19, 2015, 11:17 AM | #33 | |
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February 19, 2015, 11:32 AM | #34 | |
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The Professionals have the State Bar. The amateurs have FARETTA v. CALIFORNIA, 422 U.S. 806 (1975) Of course, there's no Constitutional right to design houses, so the analogy breaks down outside of practicing law, and not all professional gun carriers are covered by LEOSA. All analogies are imperfect. |
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February 19, 2015, 06:30 PM | #35 | |
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Basically, I think this boils down to the fact that the SCOTUS has yet to rule that citizens have an individual right to carry and not just to possess arms.
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