USPSA question

PawPaw · July 22, 2013, 12:06 PM

I shot a USPSA practice match this weekend at my local club. I was shooting a SW M&P 45, using 230 grain hardball ammo at 835 fps. (Remington UMC #L45AP4) Using the calculator in the rulebook (grs X mv/1000) I get a power factor of 192, which should qualify as major power. When I looked at the scores, I see that they have me listed as Minor power factor. I was in the Production class, and I am an unclassified shooter.

The question: Can I claim major power factor in Production class, and does that affect the way the target is scored? Thanks in advance

Jim Watson · July 22, 2013, 01:50 PM

In reverse order, yes, major-minor power factor governs scoring. Anything but an A hit counts less at Minor. Details in the rules.

No, you may not have your score revised.
ALL calibers are scored at Minor in Production no matter what they actually chronograph.
If you want Major scores with your .45, enter Limited 10 next time.

PawPaw · July 22, 2013, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Watson

No, you may not have your score revised.
ALL calibers are scored at Minor in Production no matter what they actually chronograph.
If you want Major scores with your .45, enter Limited 10 next time.

At this stage, Jim, I'm not really worried about my scores. As long as I have fun, don't embarrass myself, and improve my shooting, the scores are really a minor consideration. However, if they're going to score me anyway, I might just as well get the best score I can get.

So, if I enter Limited 10, then my ammo should be scored as Major. Cool.

If I decide to shoot my 1911, should I enter Single Stack to have my targets scored at Major?

g.willikers · July 22, 2013, 02:16 PM

Sure, the single stack guys need more competition in the division.
Or you could buy 10 rd mags for the 1911 and run it in Ltd 10, too.
But if J.B. thought his masterpiece should have 10 round capacity, he would have made the grip longer.

RickB · July 23, 2013, 11:17 AM

I shot a single stack .45 in L10 for ten years. In most parts of the U.S., L10 was always a single stack division, so I never really saw the need for Single Stack; all it did was dilute the competition.
If Uncle Sam had thought the gun needed to hold ten rounds, it would have, regardless of what JMB thought about it!

g.willikers · July 23, 2013, 04:36 PM

Yeah, the single stack division does seem kind of redundant.
Maybe it was created to give more substance to the Single Stack Classic.
Otherwise, for most stages, having 8 rounds vs 10 rounds doesn't seem to make all that much difference.

July 22, 2013, 12:06 PM	#1
PawPaw Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 2010 Location: Central Louisiana Posts: 3,137	USPSA question I shot a USPSA practice match this weekend at my local club. I was shooting a SW M&P 45, using 230 grain hardball ammo at 835 fps. (Remington UMC #L45AP4) Using the calculator in the rulebook (grs X mv/1000) I get a power factor of 192, which should qualify as major power. When I looked at the scores, I see that they have me listed as Minor power factor. I was in the Production class, and I am an unclassified shooter. The question: Can I claim major power factor in Production class, and does that affect the way the target is scored? Thanks in advance __________________ Dennis Dezendorf http://pawpawshouse.blogspot.com

July 22, 2013, 02:16 PM	#4
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	Sure, the single stack guys need more competition in the division. Or you could buy 10 rd mags for the 1911 and run it in Ltd 10, too. But if J.B. thought his masterpiece should have 10 round capacity, he would have made the grip longer. __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

July 23, 2013, 04:36 PM	#6
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	Yeah, the single stack division does seem kind of redundant. Maybe it was created to give more substance to the Single Stack Classic. Otherwise, for most stages, having 8 rounds vs 10 rounds doesn't seem to make all that much difference. __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

July 22, 2013, 01:50 PM	#2
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,535	In reverse order, yes, major-minor power factor governs scoring. Anything but an A hit counts less at Minor. Details in the rules. No, you may not have your score revised. ALL calibers are scored at Minor in Production no matter what they actually chronograph. If you want Major scores with your .45, enter Limited 10 next time.

July 23, 2013, 11:17 AM	#5
RickB Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2000 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 8,518	I shot a single stack .45 in L10 for ten years. In most parts of the U.S., L10 was always a single stack division, so I never really saw the need for Single Stack; all it did was dilute the competition. If Uncle Sam had thought the gun needed to hold ten rounds, it would have, regardless of what JMB thought about it!