Bad/no research - or am I > uninformed?

renaissance7697 · August 24, 2006, 04:16 PM

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New tv series
"Vanished"
They talk ( seeemingly very knowlegablely) about a:
Colt
in caliber "30 Luger"
with a
Six Groove
Left Hand Twist Barrel

Anybody ever hear of such a thing ?????

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tINY · August 24, 2006, 04:40 PM

30 Luger was the original chambering of the Luger pistol. I believe the 9mm Parabellum was created by simply removing the neck.

As to the barrel - I guess you could make them any way you want.

-tINY

Jim Watson · August 24, 2006, 04:48 PM

Blue Book says:
"500 Lightweight Commanders were mfg. in 7.65mm cal. during 1971. While most of these were mfg. for export trade, 5 were sold in the U.S."

7.65mm = .30 Luger

Remember, it is a TV show, it is FICTION.
Some writer was showing off or had a lucky guess.
Note there were FIVE GUNS (5.0!) sold in the home market.
I bet the prop department doesn't really have one.

Colt also made guns in 9mm Steyr and .45 Jaeger (A short case intermediate between ACP and GAP.) for sales in places like Italy where private ownership of current military calibers is not allowed.

The .30s might even have gone to India, they had a .32 limit on privately owned handguns, back when they were allowed at all.

renaissance7697 · August 24, 2006, 07:56 PM

Thank you for the info.

Five..... hunh

Well, now I don't feel so bad for not knowing about them.

How about the "six grove" "left handed twist" ??
is that a common bore configuration
For
Colt or anyone else?

PS
I know its just a show
Of course they don't have one
It is as you say
Just the writers trying to impress viewers with Techno-pop.

The did pull it out of the air though.

Probably just to get the attention of some people like me

Worked too!

Rimrod · August 24, 2006, 08:24 PM

I saw a movie once with Robert Urich. Someone was shot and the weapon was supposed to be a .41, which "wasn't very common". I was waiting to see what they were using, S&W, Ruger, Dan Wesson or etc. Finally they showed it, an old Webley.

Jim Watson · August 24, 2006, 09:49 PM

Six groove rifling is a common pattern and older Colt standard was left twist.

Ausserordeutlich · August 25, 2006, 08:20 AM

I'd like to be fortunate enough to own one of the Luger .45's than to own a Colt .30 Luger.

August 24, 2006, 04:16 PM	#1
renaissance7697 Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2001 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 203	Bad/no research - or am I > uninformed? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New tv series "Vanished" They talk ( seeemingly very knowlegablely) about a: Colt in caliber "30 Luger" with a Six Groove Left Hand Twist Barrel Anybody ever hear of such a thing ????? [email protected] __________________ An Armed Society Is a POLITE Society __________________ An Armed Society, Is a Polite Society.

August 24, 2006, 07:56 PM	#4
renaissance7697 Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2001 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 203	For Jim Watson Thank you for the info. Five..... hunh Well, now I don't feel so bad for not knowing about them. How about the "six grove" "left handed twist" ?? is that a common bore configuration For Colt or anyone else? PS I know its just a show Of course they don't have one It is as you say Just the writers trying to impress viewers with Techno-pop. The did pull it out of the air though. Probably just to get the attention of some people like me Worked too! __________________ An Armed Society, Is a Polite Society.

August 24, 2006, 04:40 PM	#2
tINY Senior Member Join Date: April 26, 2005 Location: Orygun Posts: 2,589	30 Luger was the original chambering of the Luger pistol. I believe the 9mm Parabellum was created by simply removing the neck. As to the barrel - I guess you could make them any way you want. -tINY

August 24, 2006, 04:48 PM	#3
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,541	Blue Book says: "500 Lightweight Commanders were mfg. in 7.65mm cal. during 1971. While most of these were mfg. for export trade, 5 were sold in the U.S." 7.65mm = .30 Luger Remember, it is a TV show, it is FICTION. Some writer was showing off or had a lucky guess. Note there were FIVE GUNS (5.0!) sold in the home market. I bet the prop department doesn't really have one. Colt also made guns in 9mm Steyr and .45 Jaeger (A short case intermediate between ACP and GAP.) for sales in places like Italy where private ownership of current military calibers is not allowed. The .30s might even have gone to India, they had a .32 limit on privately owned handguns, back when they were allowed at all.

August 24, 2006, 08:24 PM	#5
Rimrod Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2005 Location: Behind enemy lines Posts: 1,309	I saw a movie once with Robert Urich. Someone was shot and the weapon was supposed to be a .41, which "wasn't very common". I was waiting to see what they were using, S&W, Ruger, Dan Wesson or etc. Finally they showed it, an old Webley.

August 24, 2006, 09:49 PM	#6
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,541	Six groove rifling is a common pattern and older Colt standard was left twist.

August 25, 2006, 08:20 AM	#7
Ausserordeutlich Junior member Join Date: May 27, 2006 Posts: 996	I'd like to be fortunate enough to own one of the Luger .45's than to own a Colt .30 Luger.