223 help

CrustyFN · April 3, 2007, 06:14 PM

I bought some W748 and BL-C(2) to load 223 and noticed my manual calls for magnum primers with those two powders. I screwed up and bought normal Win small rifle primers. I was going to load 5 of each with those primers to see if they work but wanted to see if anybody else has tried these combo's before and did they work? Should I not try it and just buy some mag primers? Thanks for any help.
Rusty

Scorch · April 3, 2007, 07:40 PM

I load 748 with standard WW small rifle primers. Works fine. I only start to worry about primer types when I get into belted mags.

hoghunting · April 3, 2007, 11:05 PM

Like Scorch, I load 748 with WSR primers and get pretty close to the stated velocities.

amamnn · April 4, 2007, 02:11 AM

I got in the middle of that old ball powder/magnum primer debate some time back and ended up talking to some techs at Winchester who were dead set against magnum primers unless it was a magnum cartridge with any winchester powder. Same thing was said by Hodgon about their ball, oops I mean spherical powders, too.

I had never loaded any mag primers in a .223 rem and was using H335, or 748 if I could not get H335 locally. I bought some mag primers just to experiment with and other than a jump in pressure, I didn't see a lot of difference, except that my groups opened up a bit at 300 yards.

CrustyFN · April 4, 2007, 05:35 AM

Thanks for the info.
Rusty

rwilson452 · April 4, 2007, 08:08 AM

I just got into the AR game. I bought a Bushy 16M4ORC. the 16 is for a 16" barrel. I note most of the 223 people on here that shoot the AR have longer barrels and usually heavy barrels. All the data manuals I have are for the longer barreled AR. I seem to be having some difficulty finding a load for the shorter barreled AR. I will grant you the cheaper Sierra 55gr FMJBT bullets will not be the most accurate. I still think I should be able to get better than 2MOA out of them. Suggestions?

Sorry for the hijack but it is mostly on topic.

RERICK · April 4, 2007, 08:43 AM

I had better luck with the 62 fmj. and H335 in my 16 in barrel. I also found a good source for milsurp 62 grain bullet heads. If your interested PM me. I

Swamprabbit · April 4, 2007, 09:22 AM

I've shot W748 with standard WSR primers and have gotten excellent results.

April 3, 2007, 06:14 PM	#1
CrustyFN Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 2,258	223 help I bought some W748 and BL-C(2) to load 223 and noticed my manual calls for magnum primers with those two powders. I screwed up and bought normal Win small rifle primers. I was going to load 5 of each with those primers to see if they work but wanted to see if anybody else has tried these combo's before and did they work? Should I not try it and just buy some mag primers? Thanks for any help. Rusty __________________ I don't ever remember being absent minded.

April 3, 2007, 07:40 PM	#2
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	I load 748 with standard WW small rifle primers. Works fine. I only start to worry about primer types when I get into belted mags. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

April 4, 2007, 02:11 AM	#4
amamnn Senior Member Join Date: May 13, 2006 Location: WA, the left armpit of the USA Posts: 1,323	I got in the middle of that old ball powder/magnum primer debate some time back and ended up talking to some techs at Winchester who were dead set against magnum primers unless it was a magnum cartridge with any winchester powder. Same thing was said by Hodgon about their ball, oops I mean spherical powders, too. I had never loaded any mag primers in a .223 rem and was using H335, or 748 if I could not get H335 locally. I bought some mag primers just to experiment with and other than a jump in pressure, I didn't see a lot of difference, except that my groups opened up a bit at 300 yards. __________________ "If the enemy is in range, so are you." - Infantry Journal

April 4, 2007, 05:35 AM	#5
CrustyFN Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 2,258	Thanks for the info. Rusty __________________ I don't ever remember being absent minded.

April 4, 2007, 08:08 AM	#6
rwilson452 Senior Member Join Date: June 10, 2004 Location: Tioga co. PA Posts: 2,647	powders I just got into the AR game. I bought a Bushy 16M4ORC. the 16 is for a 16" barrel. I note most of the 223 people on here that shoot the AR have longer barrels and usually heavy barrels. All the data manuals I have are for the longer barreled AR. I seem to be having some difficulty finding a load for the shorter barreled AR. I will grant you the cheaper Sierra 55gr FMJBT bullets will not be the most accurate. I still think I should be able to get better than 2MOA out of them. Suggestions? Sorry for the hijack but it is mostly on topic.

April 3, 2007, 11:05 PM	#3
hoghunting Senior Member Join Date: March 27, 2006 Posts: 1,559	Like Scorch, I load 748 with WSR primers and get pretty close to the stated velocities.

April 4, 2007, 08:43 AM	#7
RERICK Junior member Join Date: July 9, 2005 Posts: 369	rwilson452 I had better luck with the 62 fmj. and H335 in my 16 in barrel. I also found a good source for milsurp 62 grain bullet heads. If your interested PM me. I

April 4, 2007, 09:22 AM	#8
Swamprabbit Junior Member Join Date: April 3, 2007 Location: KY Posts: 1	I've shot W748 with standard WSR primers and have gotten excellent results.