Stuck cleaning rod.

[Shadow9mm]

So I grabbed a .270 patch for a .224 gun without thinking That's a mistake I wont make again. It went through the bore guide ok but hung up shortly after entering the barrel and would not come back out. I managed to get the rod through the barrel however when the jag came out the patch was not there. I'm assuming it slipped over the jag and is lodged on the rod somewhere in the barrel.

The rod was a Tipton carbon fiber rod. I have tried pulling it from the muzzle end, it wont budge. I clamped the rod in a vise and pulled on it hard, it did not budge. I tried using pliers and caming over against the muzzle brake. Its just tearing pieces off the end. Tapping the chamber end with a hammer crushed the fibers. I put some tape on it to keep it from splintering out.

I'm not sure where to go from here. The only thing I can think of at this point is to get a cheap coated steel rod and tap it the rest of the way through. Obviously this is less than ideal.

How so I get this thing out? Don't care about the rod, just don't want to wreck the barrel.

[easyliven88]

Buy an oak dowel from your hardware store, they usually come in 3’ lengths. I use these when slugging barrels. Will not damage your barrel and shouldn’t splinter.


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[JohnKSa]

The rod was a Tipton carbon fiber rod. I have tried pulling it from the muzzle end, it wont budge. I clamped the rod in a vise and pulled on it hard, it did not budge. I tried using pliers and caming over against the muzzle brake. Its just tearing pieces off the end. Tapping the chamber end with a hammer crushed the fibers. I put some tape on it to keep it from splintering out.

Don't Tipton rods have handles? You should have been able to pull it back out using the handle as something to get a secure hold on.

Maybe put some kind of clamp on the handle and then tap on the clamp with a hammer to get it moving.

[Nodak1858]

If you are going to pound it out, use short sections of brass rod.

[Shadow9mm]

Originally Posted by JohnKSa

Don't Tipton rods have handles? You should have been able to pull it back out using the handle as something to get a secure hold on.

Maybe put some kind of clamp on the handle and then tap on the clamp with a hammer to get it moving.

I tried pulling. The handle popped right off. And snapped right back in place. It only seems to be held in place with a spring detent as near as I can tell

I tried vice grip pliers. Crushed the rod and just slid down when tapping it.

[JohnKSa]

The handle popped right off. And snapped right back in place. It only seems to be held in place with a spring detent as near as I can tell.

That's really irritating. What good is a handle that snaps on and off?

[HiBC]

do not use a wooden dowel.You might be able to use an adapter to mate a grease zerk to a 1/2-28 muzzle cap.

[mehavey]

In this situation, suggest you don't use wood since the diameter is so small.

Go to Home Depot and get some steel rod (it's not going to hurt anything)
and run it down the muzzle to where in stops. Cut it off within 2-3" of the
muzzle.

SMACK it -- no pussyfooting around, and it will dislodge the patch going back out
the way it came in.

(alternately, a steel cleaning rod -- just more expensive)

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Reading back, I'm confused as to what is exactly now stuck.

I managed to get the rod through the barrel however when the jag
came out the patch was not there. I have tried pulling it from the
muzzle end, it wont budge.

Is it just the patch ?
Or the patch and the rod ?

[HiBC]

Mehavey, good point. If its just a patch,an air hose might do it.

IF you have the rod and the jag out ,I would think a patch should let go and come out.
Ideal might be 3/16 drill rod or a 1 piece steel cleaning rod .Blunt tip.

You do not want anything that will wedge. No jag or bore brush,etc.

If a wood dowel fails,it typically involves some diagonal split. That amounts to a pair of wedges. Good luck with that.

If the obstruction is a plug, A grease gun will pump high pressure grease.

You have a threaded muzzle. Turn your gas block 90 degrees

[Smoke & Recoil]

Try soapy water, like cleaning a muzzle loader.

[gwpercle]

A friend stuck a cleaning patch in a 30-06 barrel . It wouldn't budge !
After many failed attempts ... do not try and shoot it out .
We got an idea from muzzle loading patch pullers and ball pullers .
He used JB Weld to epoxy a small screw onto the end of a flat tipped brass jag , ground any excess off the edges of the screw head so it would fit down the barrel ... then slowly screwed the threads into the patch and removed a small piece ...sometimes only threads came out but ... little by little , we took turns and picked the patch out ... it's not fast but we got it out and didn't damage the barrel . We were careful not to put too much stress on the JB Weld but that was all we had . Let it fully cure and it got us by .
A brass Jag and brass screw and you could TIG / braze the screw to the jag for a really good patch retriever !
Gary

[Colorado Redneck]

Sounds like the OP got the end of the cleaning rod through the barrel with the jag, but the patch has effectively frozen the rod in the bore. Maybe cut the cleaning rod as close to the muzzle as possible...so the muzzle isn't damaged. Then as Mehavey suggested, use a steel rod as a punch to drive the cleaning rod back towards the breech. It may take several lengths of steel rod to eventually clear the chamber. This sounds like something that would happen to me. Keep us posted, so we know how to deal with the problem.

[dahermit]

Originally Posted by easyliven88

Buy an oak dowel from your hardware store, they usually come in 3’ lengths. I use these when slugging barrels. Will not damage your barrel and shouldn’t splinter.


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I have never seen an "oak" dowel for sale in any store. They do sell unspecified "hard wood" dowels however.

[Don Fischer]

Have you tried dripping oil down the rod to the patch then pulling out the rod?

[4V50 Gary]

Don Fischer's idea of oil is good. Let it dampen the rag. Then I would drive it out with brass.

[ojibweindian]

If the patch is the cause of the obstruction, why not just burn it out, like with matches?

[HiBC]

An obstacle to offering a good remedy is the OP has not painted a clear enough picture of the problem as it exists.

Each person trying to respond sees a different scenario.

Shadow 9mm : What exactly is still in the bore,nothing more,nothing less?

The burnout suggestion may have merit. Its one of those things where I would assume my own risk.
It would seem to me if I got the patch smoldering, a feed of pure oxygen would consume most of the patch. However.while I might try it,I'm not sure about recommending it.

[Shadow9mm]

The patch slid down past the jag on the rod and has the rod bound up in the bore. If I had to guess it's stuck on the gas port at this point as rod is all the way through.

Bought a cheap brass rod. Gonna tap the old rod the rest of the way through. Hopton once I hit the snag the old rid will come out and tge patch can just be pushed out

[Logs]

Have you tried liquid wrench down barrel to really soak the patch? It worked for me once.

[Shadow9mm]

tried liquid wrench. it helped little but its still stuck pretty solid.

[Logs]

Not sure how far it is down the barrel, but are you able to take something like a dental tool and remove bits of cloth with the point?

[Shadow9mm]

I cant see any fibers on either end to even try to pull out,

[Logs]

That sucks I hope you get it out.

[FrankenMauser]

Buy an oak dowel from your hardware store, they usually come in 3’ lengths. I use these when slugging barrels. Will not damage your barrel and shouldn’t splinter.

"Shouldn't" is not the same as "won't".
Dowels are a gamble. And an even bigger gamble when talking about a cleaning rod in the bore.

Dowels are bad, mkay.

[mehavey]

Originally Posted by Shadow

Bought a cheap brass rod. Gonna tap the old rod the rest of the way

Did it work?