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Old November 16, 2016, 03:36 PM   #1
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LCP II Jams

So I've run one hundred rounds of Blazer Brass 95 grain FMJ through my new Ruger LCP II. I've had many ftf jams and two in the pipe jams. I also had one instance where the slide was locked back and as soon as I inserted a new magazine it cycled into firing position on it's own.

Anyone know what's going on with my weapon?
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Old November 16, 2016, 04:20 PM   #2
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This isn't all that uncommon with the small .380s with moderate loads. The failures are likely due to short cycling.
I'd bet that with any sort of stout, defensive ammo will work just fine.
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Old November 16, 2016, 04:36 PM   #3
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Well since it's a new LCP II i'd send it back. Ruger's got a pretty good customer satisfaction rating.
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Old November 16, 2016, 04:39 PM   #4
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Would disagree with sending it back if you only tried one type of ammo through the gun.

My LCP has never choked on any self defense ammo but at least 2 brands of ball ammo has failures although all others work flawlessly. Some guns dont like some ammo especially small .380s.
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Old November 16, 2016, 04:53 PM   #5
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Thanks but,

Thanks for the advice on the jams, but...
Does anyone know about the instance where I inserted a new magazine and the slide cycled itself?
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Old November 16, 2016, 05:16 PM   #6
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Blazer Brass is generally good ammo. I'd try another brand and if issues persist send it back to Ruger.

The auto forwarding of the slide can happen on certain semiautomatics if the magazine is inserted with enough force. If it does it regardless of force I'd check if the slide stop appears to be engaging properly.


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Old November 16, 2016, 05:47 PM   #7
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LCP II Imporvement???
My trusty old early dash S/N Elsie Pea has been 100% reliable with everything I have fed it. Cheap, and lOW powered, or expensive, and more powerfull.
Sounds like you might have to have them take a look at your new modle LCP.
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Old November 16, 2016, 05:51 PM   #8
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Might have to hold it stiffer when firing it.

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Old November 17, 2016, 03:35 AM   #9
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Some guns just don't like some ammo.

Try a couple different brands and see if they do better.
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Old November 17, 2016, 11:28 AM   #10
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Try some different ammo but blazer brass ammo is decent. Make sure you have a good grip on the gun when shooting. You might just have to send it back but ruger has very good custom service. That said I have a lcp custom that runs like a top even though I'm not real accurate with it.
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Old November 17, 2016, 01:42 PM   #11
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Thanks for the advice on the jams, but...
Does anyone know about the instance where I inserted a new magazine and the slide cycled itself?
That's not uncommon in semi-auto pistols; sometimes slapping the magazine home jostles the slide, releasing the slide stop and sending the slide forward.

Don't send the gun back to Ruger quite yet, none of the problems you're having are necessarily the gun. In my experience working at two different ranges, I'd say 90% of stoppages in small guns like the LCP are due to shooter error. The LCP is snappy and small, and it's harder to get a good shooting grip on it than with a bigger gun. Limp-wristing a gun like that is very common, I can't count how many times customers have come up to us and asked for the gunsmith because they're having stoppages, then one of us goes and shoots the gun and there are no problems.

Do you go to a range that has experienced employees? If so, try to have one of them shoot it using several different types of ammo. Many ranges have at least a few employees who are instructor-certified and are very good shooters who practice constantly, and if the gun still has stoppages when they shoot it (and it happens with different types of ammo) then it's more likely that the gun is at fault.
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Old November 17, 2016, 10:02 PM   #12
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My LCP II has not given me a moment of trouble. My LCP Custom is in a shop for sale because I like the new one better.

Off topic, sorry folks. Theo, which shop do you work in?

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Old November 18, 2016, 04:34 AM   #13
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Old November 18, 2016, 10:19 PM   #14
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Given Ruger's recent problems with quality control, you might have a bad gun.

I would, as others suggest, try with at least 3 different brands of U.S. spec ammo. Ruger will ask what you've run through it when you contact them, and they emphasize use of U.S.-specification ammo. If you can say it has malfunctioned with 2 or 3 brands, they shouldn't give you much argument at that point.
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Old November 18, 2016, 10:48 PM   #15
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I would, as others suggest, try with at least 3 different brands of U.S. spec ammo. Ruger will ask what you've run through it when you contact them, and they emphasize use of U.S.-specification ammo. If you can say it has malfunctioned with 2 or 3 brands, they shouldn't give you much argument at that point.
If he's limp-wristing the gun then this won't help at all. Make sure to also have a highly experienced shooter shoot the gun.
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Old November 21, 2016, 10:27 PM   #16
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OK, check for limp-wristing, though I don't find LCPs are sensitive in that regard.

I do know for a fact that Ruger will ask what ammo was run in the gun, as I indicated.
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Old November 21, 2016, 10:38 PM   #17
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What a piece of junk. Just another reason for me to stick with my Makarov PM.

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Old November 21, 2016, 10:41 PM   #18
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Yes, because one bad example = entire product line being junk.
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Old November 21, 2016, 11:10 PM   #19
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Sorry, but I'm a product tester for no one.

I'll stay with my tried and trued Makarov for the time being.
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Old November 21, 2016, 11:26 PM   #20
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Okay. Quality control is a thing. I've owned pistols from every modern manufacturer and some that no longer exist. I've seen issues with every modern manufacturer and some from those that no longer exist. Every company can make a lemon, some more than others it seems, but these things happen. Heck I'll even bet that back in the glorious days of the Iron Curtain and the USSR even one Makarov made it off the line that had an issue (though Ivan was likely sent to Siberia as punishment, or in your case wherever is the worst part of Bulgaria).

For the record I don't have an LCP so I don't have a dog in this fight.

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I don't have anything against the Makarov. The 50s were pretty swell.

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The Makarov has the advantage of very few parts meaning there is less to control (blowback pistols do have that advantage). But if we tossed out every make and model where we found bad examples there would literally not be any firearms left for us to use. So calling something "trash" because of a bad example is to me being a bit hysterical.
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OK, check for limp-wristing, though I don't find LCPs are sensitive in that regard.
LCPs -- like all small, snappy semi-autos -- are extremely sensitive to limp-wristing if the shooter doesn't have a proper grip. People who have a good, solid grip don't experience this problem and so they often think it's not an issue, but it is for some people.
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Old November 22, 2016, 09:32 AM   #22
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Yep^^^, get a good grip on the firearm. If you are not providing adequate resistance against the frame for the slide to cycle you have a recipe for exactly what the OP is describing. Also, these pocket guns loosen up a bit after a couple hundred rounds go through them.
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Old November 22, 2016, 11:51 AM   #23
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I too believe limp wristing is an issue here. New shooters with small polymer handguns frequently have that problem. Note limp wristing is not an insult to your masculinity - it's a training issue and hopefully will point a new shooter to getting some training.

Hickok45 did a review on the LCP II - seems like his worked just fine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4x11YeGLYw

By the way - if you shoot a pistol like this guy... expect to have failure to feeds. Check out his form!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdKWEymX0rg
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Sorry, but I'm a product tester for no one.
Sorry to break it to you but, anymore, we are all product testers for every manufacturer of every product made.
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Old November 23, 2016, 09:24 AM   #25
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Sorry to break it to you but, anymore, we are all product testers for every manufacturer of every product made.
I don't believe the Makarov PM falls into the category.

I don't believe.
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