Dream Guns

Tejicano · June 14, 2013, 04:10 AM

I would guess that I am not the only person who has ever thought about some gun & caliber combination which I would like to see on the market. I’m not talking about completely impossible fantasies - like a "plasma rifle in 40 Watt range" or a 1911 in 12 gauge – but something that would take a little engineering but should be possible.

I wish some company out there would come up with a Browning High-Power clone in 10mm. They do make them in 40 S&W so the step up to 10mm should only mean stretching the slide and frame about 0.10”. Yes, slide weight and recoil springs would need changes to handle the recoil but I can’t see how this would be impossible. I know the Canadian Inglis firm made a few prototype 45 ACP High Powers so this can’t be too hard a project.

Any other dreamers out there?

Skans · June 14, 2013, 07:47 AM

1. 440 Corbon Barrel for my Desert Eagle
2. New and improved Bren Ten (that doesn't break)
3. S&W double-stack, all stainless 10mm.
4. double-stack Boberg 9mm
5. Colt Mustang - same size, but in 9mm

Hey, I like your idea about a good quality 10mm Hi-Power. I would want it designed rugged enough to handle hot loads; high-polished blue.

Dashunde · June 14, 2013, 09:21 AM

1. Of course... the unicorn... a PM9-sized Glock 9mm single stack

2. A tiny thin poly 22lr auto for carry in a Levis change pocket. (5+1..A direct competitor to the NAA revolver).

3. A PM9 and P380 without the big honking slide release hanging on its side - redesign with a simple pin and internally hinged release. They can knock the corners off of the slides while they're at it too.
In short... Kahr should study the LCP a bit.

LockedBreech · June 14, 2013, 09:35 AM

I think an M&P in 10mm could be interesting.

The Glock single stack and Glock carbine might have become jokes at this point, but they'd be neat.

I'd also like to see Beretta do a more widely distributed run of Inox Stainless 92s and 92 Compacts. A new run of 92 Compact Type L (single stack), too. Also, I'd like them to at least think about designing a .45 version of the 92.

Horseless Trooper · June 14, 2013, 10:22 AM

I just posted my dream in the revolver forum but here goes again.A D/A .50 Special. with a 3in. barrel 5 shot. Solid frame with gate loading or swing out cylinder and fixed sights. Something that will put 350 grains or more of lead downrange at 750 to 850 fps. Lanyard ring would be a nice touch too. Something like the Webley Metropolitan Police in .50. Bulldog version would be nice too. 4 or 5in. versions for field carry can come later. I am sure that all the major manufacturers will be trying to contact me now for my input on the new gun.

MRYANJ99 · June 14, 2013, 12:58 PM

Just to finally settle the debate, I wish Glock would make a 1911. And being something of a Glock fanboy, I would like to see Glock branch out and make some other types of guns (carbine, shotgun, revolver, etc.).

WV_gunner · June 14, 2013, 01:11 PM

Tube fed .357 mag semi auto rifle that can handle Ruger only loads.

ClydeFrog · June 16, 2013, 02:52 AM

There are a few cool & practical "dream" firearms I could see buying or obtaining if I could.

A true gem would be a left hand type Paris Theodore ASP compact in .357sig caliber with maybe a stainless match grade polygonal .40 barrel. I wouldn't have the original hook style ASP trigger guard. I prefer the round type with room for gloves.
I'd also put a ambi safety on it for carry. The ASP is a classic sidearm & a updated version could really sell.

kozak6 · June 16, 2013, 05:41 AM

I'd like to see an affordable .22 lr single shot pistol.

Except, it would be designed as a pistol from the ground up. It would not be based on a rifle or shotgun action.

And it would have to be affordable, so I could actually buy one.

P5 Guy · June 16, 2013, 02:07 PM

That S&W would bring back their 9mm, 3rd Generation line of pistols, without the silly hooked trigger guard and in all carbon steel. Blued with walnut wrap around grips and single stack. Four inch barrel length, too.

ClydeFrog · June 16, 2013, 02:23 PM

If its dreams & fantasy guns, a great duty pistol or carry sidearm would be a HK P30/LEM or maybe a P30L in the wildcat .40Super caliber.

I handled a new in box, unfired P30 9x19mm at a gun show 3 weeks ago & it was very +. The P30 felt natural in both left/right hands & was very well engineered.

The .40Super like the .41AE of the early 1990s never really took off in the US market.

The .40S&W's selection by so many sworn US LE agencies & gun buyers really sealed the fate of many well designed mid-range pistol calibers; .356TSW, 9x21Dillon, .41AE, 9x23Winchester, .40Super, .400Corbon, etc.

Id really consider the P30 LEM as a sidearm if the sale price wasn't so high.

ClydeFrog

SHE3PDOG · June 16, 2013, 03:40 PM

A hammer fired Glock would be neat. Keep the safety off of it though. It'd also be cool if they made a .22lr gun with the same size/controls as their other guns.

FN should make a shotgun that is magazine fed instead of tube fed.

WV_gunner · June 16, 2013, 04:59 PM

A BFR carbine would be nice.

Koda94 · June 16, 2013, 05:52 PM

a 1911 chambered for 460 Rowland that is no longer than a govt sized 1911 (with or without a compensator)

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5. Colt Mustang - same size, but in 9mm

KyJim · June 16, 2013, 06:40 PM

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I wish Glock would make a 1911.

But then there would be no Glock vs. 1911 threads and we would lose 30% of our posts here.

pelo801 · June 16, 2013, 06:40 PM

A PPK in 9x18

dakota.potts · June 16, 2013, 07:52 PM

I would try a CZ 75 in 10mm. Maybe a modern pocket pistol in a 7.62 Tokarev would be cool

Joe_Pike · June 16, 2013, 07:55 PM

I would like Smith & Wesson to make a snubby Airweight J-frame in 9mm without the lock. I know they made a prototype years ago, but I would like to see a production gun.

BornToLooze · June 16, 2013, 11:12 PM

I know someone made a .357 mag 1911 (I believe it was Conan or something) but it'd be pretty cool to have one in .44 Mag.

**4V50 Gary** · June 17, 2013, 09:40 PM

C-96 in 45 ACP with detachable 20 rd magazines and shoulder stock holster. Impractical, but who cares?

Evan Thomas · June 17, 2013, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dakota.potts

I would try a CZ 75 in 10mm.

Dakota, your wish is... well, somebody's command. What you want is an EAA Witness. It's a CZ75 clone, available in 10mm...

I have no wish to own a 10mm pistol, but if I did...

2ndsojourn · June 18, 2013, 06:19 AM

A 1911, commander sized, 9mm, double stack mag., DA/SA.

Dashunde · June 18, 2013, 07:19 AM

^Maybe one of the Para Ordnance LDA's would cover most of that wish list?

Patriot86 · June 18, 2013, 08:59 AM

Civilian legal MP-5/10 would be pretty neat...

Husqvarna · June 18, 2013, 01:36 PM

Revolving doubleaction carbine

357 magnum and 9.3x57 share the same bullet diameter so a swap cylinder should be possible

maybe like a nagant so you could silence it?

June 14, 2013, 04:10 AM	#1
Tejicano Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2013 Posts: 168	Dream Guns I would guess that I am not the only person who has ever thought about some gun & caliber combination which I would like to see on the market. I’m not talking about completely impossible fantasies - like a "plasma rifle in 40 Watt range" or a 1911 in 12 gauge – but something that would take a little engineering but should be possible. I wish some company out there would come up with a Browning High-Power clone in 10mm. They do make them in 40 S&W so the step up to 10mm should only mean stretching the slide and frame about 0.10”. Yes, slide weight and recoil springs would need changes to handle the recoil but I can’t see how this would be impossible. I know the Canadian Inglis firm made a few prototype 45 ACP High Powers so this can’t be too hard a project. Any other dreamers out there?

June 14, 2013, 07:47 AM	#2
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	1. 440 Corbon Barrel for my Desert Eagle 2. New and improved Bren Ten (that doesn't break) 3. S&W double-stack, all stainless 10mm. 4. double-stack Boberg 9mm 5. Colt Mustang - same size, but in 9mm Hey, I like your idea about a good quality 10mm Hi-Power. I would want it designed rugged enough to handle hot loads; high-polished blue. Last edited by Skans; June 14, 2013 at 07:52 AM.

June 14, 2013, 09:35 AM	#4
LockedBreech Senior Member Join Date: July 6, 2009 Location: Rocky Mountain West Posts: 3,395	I think an M&P in 10mm could be interesting. The Glock single stack and Glock carbine might have become jokes at this point, but they'd be neat. I'd also like to see Beretta do a more widely distributed run of Inox Stainless 92s and 92 Compacts. A new run of 92 Compact Type L (single stack), too. Also, I'd like them to at least think about designing a .45 version of the 92. __________________ 16 Pistols, 5 Rifles, 1 Shotgun, no time to shoot them

June 14, 2013, 01:11 PM	#7
WV_gunner Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2011 Location: WV Posts: 938	Tube fed .357 mag semi auto rifle that can handle Ruger only loads. Last edited by WV_gunner; June 14, 2013 at 01:24 PM.

June 16, 2013, 02:52 AM	#8
ClydeFrog Junior member Join Date: May 1, 2010 Posts: 5,797	a left handed type ASP 39-2 in .357sig.... There are a few cool & practical "dream" firearms I could see buying or obtaining if I could. A true gem would be a left hand type Paris Theodore ASP compact in .357sig caliber with maybe a stainless match grade polygonal .40 barrel. I wouldn't have the original hook style ASP trigger guard. I prefer the round type with room for gloves. I'd also put a ambi safety on it for carry. The ASP is a classic sidearm & a updated version could really sell.

June 14, 2013, 09:21 AM	#3
Dashunde Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2004 Posts: 2,018	1. Of course... the unicorn... a PM9-sized Glock 9mm single stack 2. A tiny thin poly 22lr auto for carry in a Levis change pocket. (5+1..A direct competitor to the NAA revolver). 3. A PM9 and P380 without the big honking slide release hanging on its side - redesign with a simple pin and internally hinged release. They can knock the corners off of the slides while they're at it too. In short... Kahr should study the LCP a bit.

June 14, 2013, 10:22 AM	#5
Horseless Trooper Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2008 Location: Northern N.Y. Posts: 186	I just posted my dream in the revolver forum but here goes again.A D/A .50 Special. with a 3in. barrel 5 shot. Solid frame with gate loading or swing out cylinder and fixed sights. Something that will put 350 grains or more of lead downrange at 750 to 850 fps. Lanyard ring would be a nice touch too. Something like the Webley Metropolitan Police in .50. Bulldog version would be nice too. 4 or 5in. versions for field carry can come later. I am sure that all the major manufacturers will be trying to contact me now for my input on the new gun.

June 14, 2013, 12:58 PM	#6
MRYANJ99 Member Join Date: March 7, 2013 Posts: 44	Just to finally settle the debate, I wish Glock would make a 1911. And being something of a Glock fanboy, I would like to see Glock branch out and make some other types of guns (carbine, shotgun, revolver, etc.).

June 16, 2013, 05:41 AM	#9
kozak6 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2005 Location: AZ Posts: 3,113	I'd like to see an affordable .22 lr single shot pistol. Except, it would be designed as a pistol from the ground up. It would not be based on a rifle or shotgun action. And it would have to be affordable, so I could actually buy one.

June 16, 2013, 02:07 PM	#10
P5 Guy Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2005 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 1,804	Dreaming That S&W would bring back their 9mm, 3rd Generation line of pistols, without the silly hooked trigger guard and in all carbon steel. Blued with walnut wrap around grips and single stack. Four inch barrel length, too.

June 16, 2013, 02:23 PM	#11
ClydeFrog Junior member Join Date: May 1, 2010 Posts: 5,797	HK P30 LEM in .40Super... If its dreams & fantasy guns, a great duty pistol or carry sidearm would be a HK P30/LEM or maybe a P30L in the wildcat .40Super caliber. I handled a new in box, unfired P30 9x19mm at a gun show 3 weeks ago & it was very +. The P30 felt natural in both left/right hands & was very well engineered. The .40Super like the .41AE of the early 1990s never really took off in the US market. The .40S&W's selection by so many sworn US LE agencies & gun buyers really sealed the fate of many well designed mid-range pistol calibers; .356TSW, 9x21Dillon, .41AE, 9x23Winchester, .40Super, .400Corbon, etc. Id really consider the P30 LEM as a sidearm if the sale price wasn't so high. ClydeFrog

June 16, 2013, 03:40 PM	#12
SHE3PDOG Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2013 Posts: 988	A hammer fired Glock would be neat. Keep the safety off of it though. It'd also be cool if they made a .22lr gun with the same size/controls as their other guns. FN should make a shotgun that is magazine fed instead of tube fed. __________________ Semper Fi Marine, NRA member, SAF Defender's Club member, and constitutionally protected keeper and bearer of firearms

June 16, 2013, 04:59 PM	#13
WV_gunner Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2011 Location: WV Posts: 938	A BFR carbine would be nice.

June 16, 2013, 06:40 PM	#16
pelo801 Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2009 Posts: 718	A PPK in 9x18

June 16, 2013, 07:52 PM	#17
dakota.potts Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2013 Location: Keystone Heights, Florida Posts: 3,084	I would try a CZ 75 in 10mm. Maybe a modern pocket pistol in a 7.62 Tokarev would be cool

June 16, 2013, 07:55 PM	#18
Joe_Pike Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2010 Posts: 1,581	I would like Smith & Wesson to make a snubby Airweight J-frame in 9mm without the lock. I know they made a prototype years ago, but I would like to see a production gun. __________________ Stay Groovy

June 16, 2013, 11:12 PM	#19
BornToLooze Senior Member Join Date: March 8, 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 108	I know someone made a .357 mag 1911 (I believe it was Conan or something) but it'd be pretty cool to have one in .44 Mag.

June 17, 2013, 09:40 PM	#20
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,832	C-96 in 45 ACP with detachable 20 rd magazines and shoulder stock holster. Impractical, but who cares? __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

June 18, 2013, 06:19 AM	#22
2ndsojourn Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2013 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,416	A 1911, commander sized, 9mm, double stack mag., DA/SA.

June 18, 2013, 07:19 AM	#23
Dashunde Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2004 Posts: 2,018	^Maybe one of the Para Ordnance LDA's would cover most of that wish list?

June 18, 2013, 08:59 AM	#24
Patriot86 Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2010 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 1,293	Civilian legal MP-5/10 would be pretty neat... __________________ "....The swords of others will set you your limits".

June 18, 2013, 01:36 PM	#25
Husqvarna Senior Member Join Date: May 7, 2012 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,000	Revolving doubleaction carbine 357 magnum and 9.3x57 share the same bullet diameter so a swap cylinder should be possible maybe like a nagant so you could silence it?