My new take on Internet gun opinions - Page 2

Mtn Biker · January 5, 2013, 09:23 PM

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Over the years I have seen many opinions from "experts" on forums......

So is that your opinion?

LOL! Just kidding!

VL

Ruark · January 5, 2013, 09:44 PM

Yes, yes, yes. Remember at all times: on the internet, everybody is an "expert."

**Tom Servo** · January 5, 2013, 10:12 PM

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we all know that most people who use them will spontaneously combust as a result of their use and the incorrect geometry they produce has been linked to various Ebola outbreaks.

Actually, the Ebola thing was a total myth. The real issue was spontaneous tail growth. I know, because I'm a SPECOPS undercover astronaut cowboy. We get briefed on this stuff.

The internet has given everyone the license to be an expert, and it's odd that I find myself contradicting expert advice from it on a daily basis.

tahunua001 · January 5, 2013, 10:27 PM

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I know, because I'm a SPECOPS undercover astronaut cowboy. We get briefed on this stuff.

as a Major in the Navy seals, I can speak from first hand knowledge that you have not received any such briefing as SPECOPS, undercover, astronaut, cowboys are required to gather all their intel in the field

Joe_Pike · January 5, 2013, 10:28 PM

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I'm a SPECOPS undercover astronaut cowboy.

I'm real interested in what that uniform looks like.

tahunua001 · January 5, 2013, 10:57 PM

^^^exactly what it sounds like

camo spacesuit with cowboy hat optional for dress occasions.

**Tom Servo** · January 5, 2013, 11:27 PM

We don't do uniforms. We're covert professionals, specializing in Reliable Entry Tactics and Rapid Deployment. We use H&K products because we are mighty, and because the burden to the taxpayer is the greatest.

Joe_Pike · January 5, 2013, 11:35 PM

And no mention of HK in a tongue in cheek response can get by without an homage to Correia.

**Tom Servo** · January 5, 2013, 11:56 PM

Correia is a great American who speaks the hard truths. I could do with less of the sappy romance in his books, though. Real tactical operators only need each other.

Dan31 · January 6, 2013, 12:31 AM

That line about everyone being an expert online is sooo true. I'm on the 67-72 chevy truck forums and there are a few of those "experts" there that no matter what you know your always wrong. Its like the gun I just purchased today, its a brand X and it seems that one person who had nothing but problems with his not only posted all these rants about how bad it is on one site decided to basically post the same review on at least four other forums. I have never talked trash about one gun or another because there really is no good reason to do so. Honestly I think those that hate this brand or that brand are usually a bunch of kids or are from this new generation that "expect everything" no matter what.

9mm · January 6, 2013, 12:34 AM

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Of course you have Sig and S&W who use external extractors and we all know that most people who use them will spontaneously combust as a result of their use and the incorrect geometry they produce has been linked to various Ebola outbreaks.

And that is why I didn't buy an 1911 with xternal extractor. I am glad I didn't.

IrishBluEyes51 · January 6, 2013, 10:57 AM

Say my gun is cheap, call it plastic or Tupperware, but pleassssssssssssssssssssseeeee don't call my baby ugly.

jglsprings · January 6, 2013, 12:03 PM

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Tom Servo

Actually, the Ebola thing was a total myth. The real issue was spontaneous tail growth. I know, because I'm a SPECOPS undercover astronaut cowboy. We get briefed on this stuff.

The internet has given everyone the license to be an expert, and it's odd that I find myself contradicting expert advice from it on a daily basis.

Okay Servo - you owe me a new keyboard. I just shot coffee out my nose and ruined mine! Timing is everything in comedy and you have mastered the internet form.

Quckly followed by...

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Tom Servo
Staff

Join Date: September 27, 2008
Location: Foothills of the Appalach
Posts: 5,702

Correia is a great American who speaks the hard truths. I could do with less of the sappy romance in his books, though. Real tactical operators only need each other.

Now that's twice...

SPEMack618 · January 6, 2013, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Servo

Correia is a great American who speaks the hard truths. I could do with less of the sappy romance in his books, though. Real tactical operators only need each other.

See Tom, being a counter jockey, like a pog operator, this is where you get confused, real operators, such as myself, need a steady diet of sorority girls and Mountain Dew to operator at peak tactical proficiency.

**Tom Servo** · January 6, 2013, 08:32 PM

I disapprove of my words being taken out of context. I did not mean to imply that the men engage in any inappropriate snuggling. We are men's men. Real men, like the cop from the Village People...that's us.

When the balloon drops, we'll be the ones taking charge and looking fabulous.

Willie D · January 6, 2013, 09:09 PM

RE: MK 23

I actually had someone use the "It's an offensive handgun, dummy!" line on me when I suggested a USP or any smaller pistol could do the job equally well.

Right off the bat I disregard all the truly awful advice or blatant boosting of mediocre guns everyone seems to own (cough10/22cough). The main thing I try to be aware of is that other people's needs, likes, and abilities are different - and filtering that info from their posts is essential for getting the best advice as it pertains to you.

I used to spend a lot of time on guitar forums and there was a lot of talking past each other on things that were purely a matter of taste.

"I want to sound like Eddie Van Halen."
"You should get this sweet rig that sounds like SRV!"

I like garage rock. Point being, there is a wealth of great information on these forums but you need take that info and process it so that it is useful to YOU.

9mm · January 6, 2013, 09:11 PM

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Tom Servo

The internet has given everyone the license to be an expert, and it's odd that I find myself contradicting expert advice from it on a daily basis.

New sig.

Sarge · January 6, 2013, 09:27 PM

Here's my take on it. JoeBlow82 gets in a gun forum and asks about a particular gun. SixPackSam actually owns or owned one that he had problems with, so he explains them and feels like he did the other guy a favor by helping him avoid trouble. A third party chimes in, says he owned that model and he had no trouble at all with it.

If that's as far as it went, the free exchange of info has served its purpose. Often however, the H8trz & Fanboiz fire up and a lot of pointless arguing obscures any useful information, positive or negative, that surfaced. If the thread continues in a smoking tailspin, mods step in and kill it.

As they should- it's that old Signal to Noise thing. Despite their best efforts, you still need thick skin and a really good BS filter to glean useful information from internet discussions. If you don't have them, you might as well be riding a tricycle down the Information Super-Highway during rush hour.

SauerGrapes · January 6, 2013, 09:27 PM

We have to argue about guns. What else is there? Facebook?

outlawzrider83 · January 6, 2013, 11:36 PM

a guy i work with has never owned a gun in his life , but he plays modern warfare 3...so when the panic struck the other day he looked up gun stores and called to se if they had any mark 14's. because thats the most accurate versitile assault rifle there is...lmfao....true story

**Tom Servo** · January 6, 2013, 11:46 PM

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a guy i work with has never owned a gun in his life , but he plays modern warfare 3

That's the dorkus who called me four times Saturday asking about rifles that were a) out of stock, or b) illegal for civilians. Who the heck expects to find a FAMAS at retail?

That, or there's more than one person doing this.

Venom1956 · January 7, 2013, 12:25 AM

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That's the dorkus who called me four times Saturday asking about rifles that were a) out of stock, or b) illegal for civilians. Who the heck expects to find a FAMAS at retail?

That, or there's more than one person doing this.

Lol.

egor20 · January 7, 2013, 12:43 AM

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Who the heck expects to find a FAMAS at retail?

I had to look it up to see if it was the gun I thought, it was.

One of the links amused me though..

The FAMAS is a bullpup assault rifle featured in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, Call of Duty: Black Ops and Call of Duty: Black Ops Declassified.

The FAMAS is found in several levels throughout the campaign, often used by Ultranationalists or Russian Military.
http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/FAMAS

RBid · January 7, 2013, 01:28 AM

Call of Duty suffers from its success. With so many millions of people playing, the small % of idiots translates to a large number. What is often overlooked is the number of guys who play CoD who are LEO, military, or otherwise very familiar with real firearms.

I have experienced what Tom referenced, but where I'm at, the Airsoft operators are a bigger strain on my sanity.

foxytwo · January 7, 2013, 07:09 AM

Jedi has hit the nail on the head. Gun bashing has evolved into an art. I like to have other people's honest opinions on guns, but not their bashing of brands they don't like.

January 5, 2013, 10:57 PM	#31
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	^^^exactly what it sounds like camo spacesuit with cowboy hat optional for dress occasions. __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

January 5, 2013, 11:27 PM	#32
Tom Servo Staff Join Date: September 27, 2008 Location: Foothills of the Appalachians Posts: 13,059	We don't do uniforms. We're covert professionals, specializing in Reliable Entry Tactics and Rapid Deployment. We use H&K products because we are mighty, and because the burden to the taxpayer is the greatest. __________________ Sometimes it’s nice not to destroy the world for a change. --Randall Munroe

January 5, 2013, 11:35 PM	#33
Joe_Pike Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2010 Posts: 1,581	And no mention of HK in a tongue in cheek response can get by without an homage to Correia. __________________ Stay Groovy Last edited by Joe_Pike; January 6, 2013 at 03:10 PM.

January 5, 2013, 11:56 PM	#34
Tom Servo Staff Join Date: September 27, 2008 Location: Foothills of the Appalachians Posts: 13,059	Correia is a great American who speaks the hard truths. I could do with less of the sappy romance in his books, though. Real tactical operators only need each other. __________________ Sometimes it’s nice not to destroy the world for a change. --Randall Munroe

January 6, 2013, 12:31 AM	#35
Dan31 Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Location: Graham, WA Posts: 145	That line about everyone being an expert online is sooo true. I'm on the 67-72 chevy truck forums and there are a few of those "experts" there that no matter what you know your always wrong. Its like the gun I just purchased today, its a brand X and it seems that one person who had nothing but problems with his not only posted all these rants about how bad it is on one site decided to basically post the same review on at least four other forums. I have never talked trash about one gun or another because there really is no good reason to do so. Honestly I think those that hate this brand or that brand are usually a bunch of kids or are from this new generation that "expect everything" no matter what. __________________ I was told once "if you don't have anything good to say don't say anything at all"

January 5, 2013, 09:44 PM	#27
Ruark Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 2010 Posts: 227	Yes, yes, yes. Remember at all times: on the internet, everybody is an "expert."

January 6, 2013, 10:57 AM	#37
IrishBluEyes51 Member Join Date: January 27, 2012 Posts: 56	Say my gun is cheap, call it plastic or Tupperware, but pleassssssssssssssssssssseeeee don't call my baby ugly.

January 6, 2013, 08:32 PM	#40
Tom Servo Staff Join Date: September 27, 2008 Location: Foothills of the Appalachians Posts: 13,059	I disapprove of my words being taken out of context. I did not mean to imply that the men engage in any inappropriate snuggling. We are men's men. Real men, like the cop from the Village People...that's us. When the balloon drops, we'll be the ones taking charge and looking fabulous. __________________ Sometimes it’s nice not to destroy the world for a change. --Randall Munroe

January 6, 2013, 09:09 PM	#41
Willie D Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2007 Posts: 1,149	RE: MK 23 I actually had someone use the "It's an offensive handgun, dummy!" line on me when I suggested a USP or any smaller pistol could do the job equally well. Right off the bat I disregard all the truly awful advice or blatant boosting of mediocre guns everyone seems to own (cough10/22cough). The main thing I try to be aware of is that other people's needs, likes, and abilities are different - and filtering that info from their posts is essential for getting the best advice as it pertains to you. I used to spend a lot of time on guitar forums and there was a lot of talking past each other on things that were purely a matter of taste. "I want to sound like Eddie Van Halen." "You should get this sweet rig that sounds like SRV!" I like garage rock. Point being, there is a wealth of great information on these forums but you need take that info and process it so that it is useful to YOU.

January 6, 2013, 09:27 PM	#43
Sarge Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2002 Location: MO Posts: 5,457	Here's my take on it. JoeBlow82 gets in a gun forum and asks about a particular gun. SixPackSam actually owns or owned one that he had problems with, so he explains them and feels like he did the other guy a favor by helping him avoid trouble. A third party chimes in, says he owned that model and he had no trouble at all with it. If that's as far as it went, the free exchange of info has served its purpose. Often however, the H8trz & Fanboiz fire up and a lot of pointless arguing obscures any useful information, positive or negative, that surfaced. If the thread continues in a smoking tailspin, mods step in and kill it. As they should- it's that old Signal to Noise thing. Despite their best efforts, you still need thick skin and a really good BS filter to glean useful information from internet discussions. If you don't have them, you might as well be riding a tricycle down the Information Super-Highway during rush hour. __________________ People were smarter before the Internet, or imbeciles were harder to notice. Last edited by Sarge; January 6, 2013 at 10:01 PM.

January 6, 2013, 09:27 PM	#44
SauerGrapes Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2009 Location: S.E.PA. Posts: 920	We have to argue about guns. What else is there? Facebook? __________________ NRA member, DCF&S member, PAFOA member, USPSA member, NSCA member R.I.P.____Murphy

January 6, 2013, 11:36 PM	#45
outlawzrider83 Member Join Date: December 16, 2012 Posts: 33	a guy i work with has never owned a gun in his life , but he plays modern warfare 3...so when the panic struck the other day he looked up gun stores and called to se if they had any mark 14's. because thats the most accurate versitile assault rifle there is...lmfao....true story

January 7, 2013, 01:28 AM	#49
RBid Senior Member Join Date: March 10, 2012 Posts: 1,059	Call of Duty suffers from its success. With so many millions of people playing, the small % of idiots translates to a large number. What is often overlooked is the number of guys who play CoD who are LEO, military, or otherwise very familiar with real firearms. I have experienced what Tom referenced, but where I'm at, the Airsoft operators are a bigger strain on my sanity. __________________ Currently Own: Beretta PX4 9mm, Glock 23 (Gen 4), Glock 19 (Gen 4) x2

January 7, 2013, 07:09 AM	#50
foxytwo Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2010 Posts: 234	Jedi has hit the nail on the head. Gun bashing has evolved into an art. I like to have other people's honest opinions on guns, but not their bashing of brands they don't like.