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Silenced lever gun?
I have a Marlin 1894 in 38/357 and had a thought of threading the barrel and adding a 9mm suppressor. Anyone ever do this or see a suppressed lever action?
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Not something I've ever seen, or even thought of ... but now I REALLY want one!
Just make sure to post pics if you go for it
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Great video, and now I have to start saving my pennies to make the change.
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I've been dancing around the idea of doing that with an 1895 and running trapdoor loads through it.
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Teddy Roosevelt had one with a Maxim silencer.
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I guess I didn't have a new idea.
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I've seen them in the forum here. Someone posted a stainless lever gun with a can on it, I've wanted one ever since!
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I've seen a custom integrally suppressed Ruger 96/44. It looked like quite a pig slayer.
I have no idea about running .357 magnum rounds through a 9mm can though. That may be a bit too much pressure for the can.
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I would only shoot 38spl through it. 357 is going to break the sound barrier so what's the point.
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A 200 grain subsonic .357 ought to hit hard.
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True Jim, guess I just think of 357 vs 38 as speed being the difference. Anything sub-sonic
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When I shoot a 5.56 or a .308 suppressed I'm always using supersonic ammo. But the silencer still drastically reduces the sound; it's quieter than a .22 and doesn't require hearing protection.
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Here is mine!
It is a 45-70. I have shot subsonic bullets as heavy as 540grains through it. Id say it is quieter than an unsuppressed 22lr shooting subsonics I took a deer with it a bit ago but sorry I dont have pictures so you can dissbelieve me if you like At the low velocity the bullet have very little expansion (went from .458ish caliber to .502 caliber and it was pretty soft lead) it still retained 535 grain from a starting of about 540 grains. The buck was standing with a doe when I shot it and it just crumpled. The doe acted like she did not know what to do and stood there till we had to chase her off. Clearly the deer here have not learned that the new sound means danger yet. If you plan to shoot cast lead bullets make sure your can is able to be dissembled. Mine isnt to I had to fork over a decent amount of money to buy a ultrasonic cleaner loaded with the purple cleaner that devolves lead. It is not an ideal setup.
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Very nice. Is that regular 45ACP can you put on there, or is that a specially made 45-70 can?
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If you are going to go that far with it, why not add the tax stamp for a Short Barreled Rifle and start with a Rossi Ranch Hand, get the stamp, add a full length stock and the suppressor?
BTW Deja Vu, I wish we could hunt with a rig like that in AZ.
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It is a special can. It was told I can shoot up to 458 win-mag through it. It is an AWC can. The 2 things I would change is 1. make is user serviceable 2. Make it lighter.
It is solid stainless steal and I bet weighs in at about 2-3 LBS. I find that I gain a little velocity with the can on (in the range of 10-50 FPS depending on load and bullet used. It is far from silent but still quiet enough that the neighbors dont complain. The bullet on the deer entered at the left side shoulder punching a nice round hole in the shoulder bone, nicked a left rib and then shattered a rib on the other side of the chest cavity and exited the body for about an inch then entered the right leg and in-bedded its self in the opposite upper front leg bone. The shot was a bit down hill. I would guess from the entrance in the right leg that the bullet started tumbling before stopping as it was found embedded sideways in the leg bone.
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Ooops, looks like I can use a suppressor for hunting in AZ now.
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Deja Vu- your rifle is the one I'd seen before that's had me wanting to get a suppressed lever gun. Thing of beauty!
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I'm not sure who made it, but a local class 3 up here (he since moved) had an integrally suppressed .44 lever-action Marlin. It was awesome to see. 300 grain subsonic loads were reportedly very quiet. I never got a chance to shoot it, but a friend did when he picked up a suppressor.
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That AFG is hilarious with the EoTech. Just makes me giggle.
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Perhaps an ACOG would look a little better.
BTW guys, I have noticed that the Rossi Ranch Hand pistols are sometimes refered to as a "Mare's Leg". Any insight into what truly was a "Mare's Leg" and was it every a production gun or was it simply a monicker for a cut down lever gun? As I mentioned before I have been thinking about making an SBR out of a Ranch Hand and adding a suppressor but in truth I think I would be happier with a Marlin or Winchester as the base weapon for the build. I think the build quality is much better and easily worth the extra couple hundred given what the total costs will be. OH, and I am not at all sure what caliber I should go with but was thinking of handgun caliber that is naturally close to subsonic so that going subsonic has the least impact, perhaps .45LC?
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