legal or not?

jcleaner · June 14, 2013, 11:30 AM

Ok, first I'm a noob so be gentle. Building my first ar15 (rifle not pistol) and I bought what was supposed to be a 16" barrel (private sale), but when it arrived it was a 10" barrel with a 6" flash suppressor! So, 2 questions;
1. Is this make it a legal (16") barrel?
2. Second, I measured the barrel from the rear of the delta ring to barrel end, and it actually measured 15 3/4". Did I measure this correctly?

Brian Pfleuger · June 14, 2013, 11:37 AM

1) if the flash suppressor is permanently attached (welded for sure, possibly certain kinds of staked/pinned, I'm not sure on that) it is legally 16"

2)the measurement is from the breach face (bolt).

From a ballistics perspective (energy) its a 10" barrel though. I'd be most upset that the actual "barrel" wasn't the 16" I paid for, assuming it was t your screw up for ordering the wrong thing.

UtopiaTexasG19 · June 14, 2013, 12:24 PM

I would never buy a barrel unless I saw it first or received some sort of picture. I know that would not tell you how worn the inside was but it would have been a red flag to you about the lenght.

jcleaner · June 14, 2013, 11:25 PM

yeah, I know, really dumb. just got anxious but learned my lesson. thanks for the help guys.

BPowderkeg · June 15, 2013, 09:19 AM

if possible, return it and buy a regular 16" heavy barrel with 1-7 or 1-9 twist.

Ibmikey · June 15, 2013, 09:50 AM

Midway has a heavy 16" Model 1 (Shaw barrel) for $150. I built a rifle with one and it is a tack driver.

Gunplummer · June 15, 2013, 10:38 AM

I have a barrel like you described on mine for years. Look on the flash suppressor for a small silver dot about 1/16 big down where the barrel starts. This is silver solder or braze and is legal. There were hundreds of these barrels produced and I believe they are still available through "The Gun Parts Corporation".

Yung.gunr · June 18, 2013, 10:25 PM

I've never understood the point of getting 10" barrel and tacking the fake can on there.

If you don't want to pony up for the SBR or get the pistol then just stick with the 16" barrel. You have all that length with none of the benefits.

June 14, 2013, 11:30 AM	#1
jcleaner Junior Member Join Date: June 14, 2013 Posts: 2	legal or not? Ok, first I'm a noob so be gentle. Building my first ar15 (rifle not pistol) and I bought what was supposed to be a 16" barrel (private sale), but when it arrived it was a 10" barrel with a 6" flash suppressor! So, 2 questions; 1. Is this make it a legal (16") barrel? 2. Second, I measured the barrel from the rear of the delta ring to barrel end, and it actually measured 15 3/4". Did I measure this correctly?

June 14, 2013, 11:37 AM	#2
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	1) if the flash suppressor is permanently attached (welded for sure, possibly certain kinds of staked/pinned, I'm not sure on that) it is legally 16" 2)the measurement is from the breach face (bolt). From a ballistics perspective (energy) its a 10" barrel though. I'd be most upset that the actual "barrel" wasn't the 16" I paid for, assuming it was t your screw up for ordering the wrong thing. Last edited by Brian Pfleuger; June 14, 2013 at 11:52 AM.

June 14, 2013, 11:25 PM	#4
jcleaner Junior Member Join Date: June 14, 2013 Posts: 2	leagl yeah, I know, really dumb. just got anxious but learned my lesson. thanks for the help guys.

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June 14, 2013, 12:24 PM	#3
UtopiaTexasG19 Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2011 Location: S.E. Texas Gulf Coast Posts: 743	I would never buy a barrel unless I saw it first or received some sort of picture. I know that would not tell you how worn the inside was but it would have been a red flag to you about the lenght.

June 15, 2013, 09:19 AM	#5
BPowderkeg Junior member Join Date: September 27, 2011 Posts: 382	if possible, return it and buy a regular 16" heavy barrel with 1-7 or 1-9 twist.

June 15, 2013, 09:50 AM	#6
Ibmikey Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2013 Location: Now relocated to Texas Posts: 2,943	Midway has a heavy 16" Model 1 (Shaw barrel) for $150. I built a rifle with one and it is a tack driver.

June 15, 2013, 10:38 AM	#7
Gunplummer Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2010 Location: South East Pa. Posts: 3,364	I have a barrel like you described on mine for years. Look on the flash suppressor for a small silver dot about 1/16 big down where the barrel starts. This is silver solder or braze and is legal. There were hundreds of these barrels produced and I believe they are still available through "The Gun Parts Corporation".

June 18, 2013, 10:25 PM	#8
Yung.gunr Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2010 Location: Phoenix area Posts: 1,442	I've never understood the point of getting 10" barrel and tacking the fake can on there. If you don't want to pony up for the SBR or get the pistol then just stick with the 16" barrel. You have all that length with none of the benefits.