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Old October 19, 2009, 02:57 PM   #1
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Competition Gun **** - Kolar Skeet Max

Over the weekend I got to fondle and makeout with one of these for one round at the Vero Beach (Sebastian) range. Nice wood, nice handling, nice price! 32-inch tubes, 9 lbs.

I'm not sure about the heads-up-attitude thing though, my score was a 17. It will be interesting to see if the sporting/skeet guns continue to go this direction.

Many moons ago, I started this whole target gun thing with trap - so I somewhat get the heads-up thing. But for now I'll lay my head on the stock.

Sweet gun though - I am no longer a Kolar virgin.

Enjoy.

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Old October 19, 2009, 03:08 PM   #2
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Glad to hear you got an opportunity to shoot one.

I agree, I think they're very good guns / but I haven't been able to make myself write the check yet either ......
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Old October 19, 2009, 05:30 PM   #3
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BigJim - you could sell ALL of your Brownings, get the KOLAR with the carrier tube and sub gauge set, and you'll have one gun to do it all - and at nine pounds plus, with the largest overbore at .750, it WILL be the softest shooting thing your bionic shoulder ever felt.......
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Old October 19, 2009, 05:38 PM   #4
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Yup. Big Jim should do it, so I don't have too.....the report in of course.....
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Old October 19, 2009, 05:54 PM   #5
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I wouldn't want to be the first of our little group to buy the Kolar / and deprive you guys of the joy of being first. Besides, with my luck, if I bought it - some meathead would scratch it in a gunrack or something ...

The bionic shoulder will have to be content with the Benelli 12ga and maybe a 28ga O/U again this week ....

Besides, I just put new tires on my SUV for $ 1,500 last week - next week I'm having a couple of new windows put in at the house and a little work done on the main chimney for about $ 15K ---- the piggybank is empty guys ...you'll have to do it without me this year...
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Old October 19, 2009, 06:22 PM   #6
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Why are tires so expensive all a sudden? They are stupid money now.
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Old October 20, 2009, 12:47 AM   #7
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I'm not sure about the heads-up-attitude thing though…
I share your skepticism. I don't know if it's going to be a flash-in-the pan or the new standard. With the 32" high rib and straight stock, it looks a lot like my trap gun (Beretta 682-X w/ Gˆ2 Shockmaster). I've tried it on Skeet "just because" and the swing was awkward.
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Old October 20, 2009, 01:27 AM   #8
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Tires are quite the engineering feat as well. And SUV tires are just big. My car cost only $500 to replace all 4. That was with a 40k warranty, roadhazard replacement, and mounting/balancing. And they're damn good tires too.

If you want crazy expensive tires, get a sportbike. $3-500, and they'll only last about 5000 miles!
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Old October 21, 2009, 02:39 PM   #9
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My SUV is an AWD and curb weight is about 5,600 lbs - and it takes a 275/60R-18 tire ....but what can you do. $ 1,500 isn't that bad for a set of tires that should give me 50,000 miles ( and its a 2004 model, so I'll keep the vehicle another 4 or 5 years probably - since its still real tight / has all the options I need ..).

Besides we're debating tire cost / when you're looking at at $ 25,000 shotgun .... come on now ...

Its easy to justify spending another $ 15K on my home / its 45 yrs old / and we intend to stay here even though its way more room than we need -- just can't give up the big house yet as we near retirement...

Have to keep it all in perspective ...( I'm not whining / even my bad days are great / and I have way more guns, tools and other toys etc than I have a right to expect ..)...

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Old October 21, 2009, 04:04 PM   #10
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I was serious when I said you could sell ALL of your browning for the Kolar - without fancy engraving/stock upgrades, you can get one for around 10,not 25.........

You're tempted.....I KNOW you are.........
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Old October 21, 2009, 04:11 PM   #11
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I could sell my Mossberg, Marlin and Savage .22 for a sniff?
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Old October 21, 2009, 04:16 PM   #12
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He might let you look at it from across the parking lot.......
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Old October 21, 2009, 04:41 PM   #13
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I know .....but I want some of the engraving ... and I have to have some of the stock upgrades ( or it'll look like a boat paddle ...)... but you guys would have to travel out west " to sniff it "...

heck, I'd even let you shoot it ....
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Old October 21, 2009, 06:13 PM   #14
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I got family in Reno I HAVE to visit (it ain't MY side of the family) next summer - you get that gun and I'll gladly make a detour to shoot with or for you!
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Old October 21, 2009, 06:51 PM   #15
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Not this year my friend .....the piggy bank is empty right now .../but I will let you know..
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Old October 21, 2009, 09:38 PM   #16
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Kolars are heavy,expensive and ponderous.

Every one I've had the privilege of trying has found its way to the target easily.

Were I in the market for a high end competition O/U, the Kolar would be on the short list.

So would the K-80, Perazzi's MX series and the DT10.

And not much else.....
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Old October 21, 2009, 09:40 PM   #17
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you have that right Dave....maybe add a Blaser for a few folks....now you're talking about some GOOD guns
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Old October 22, 2009, 11:44 AM   #18
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I would put the Krieghoff, Kolar and Blaser in the top 3 - and respectfully leave the Perazzi in 4th - and put Browning in 5th ( XS Skeet, XT Traop ....) and the DT-10 in 6th .

But in my mind, its a solid Top 5 or 6 that would be hard to beat...
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Old October 22, 2009, 11:52 AM   #19
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And the shame of it all is that there are only a few of the many posters here who are chiming in or perhaps even know of which we speak.
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Old October 22, 2009, 12:54 PM   #20
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Ounce Boy says:

And the shame of it all is that there are only a few of the many posters here who are chiming in or perhaps even know of which we speak.

My Missive Retort:

That is the truth right there!

But lets be honest. We that know are at a point in our chronologic age where we can afford it or at a point in our shooting career where we want to know it.

Taking the more philosophic view, perhaps it is "our" purpose to help "edumicate." And, remember there are only certain hourses that can be borught to the trough.
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Old October 22, 2009, 12:58 PM   #21
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I assure ya'll that I won't be competing to buy the limited numbers of new Rolls-$-Royce produced annually anytime soon...
Heck I would have to first pay for a field day shooting dirt birds first...
I am tryin' to catch ya'll ol'timerz in age but I can't run that fast...
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Old October 22, 2009, 04:00 PM   #22
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But we need to keep it in perspective too ...

http://www.lexus.com/models/LX/?s_oc...X_Display_Info
I'd like a new Lexus LX-10 this year .... but I don't need one ( the old one is paid for ...)

http://www.seattlestreetofdreams.com...algallery5.cfm
A new house would be fun .....but I don't need one ( the old one is paid for ..)

http://www.kolararms.com/skeetmaxskt.html
A new shotgun would be fun ...but I don't need one ( the old ones are all paid for ..)
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...8&d=1226348855

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but its still fun to have the discussion / and spend your money HogDog ....

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Old October 22, 2009, 05:40 PM   #23
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BJP, You ain't spending my money... we don't "pay" taxes... we loan a few bucks to the gubmint but they have to pay me back about 700-1000% interest well 2009 is my last year of EIC so I will soon be out of that "PAWN SHOP" status...
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Old October 22, 2009, 06:13 PM   #24
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Ok, man - stay well .....( and have some fun will ya ...) / you look like you might be wrapped a little too tight lately ...
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Old October 22, 2009, 08:00 PM   #25
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OK, Blaser also.

The Blaser may be the best design and have zero tolerance fittings, but the Kolar is made in Wisconsin.

And made very,very, well....
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