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Old January 2, 2017, 06:58 PM   #26
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DUNITALL, There were no Remington copies in brass (actually a bronze alloy). Most of them were copies of the 51 Colt navy and all were .36 caliber. BTW there was no shortage of iron during the war.

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In actuality there were many shortages of iron on the Confederate side. Otherwise, there would not have been pistols manufactured by Griswold and Gunnison with brass frames and twisted iron cylinders, and although there are only 2 original Schneider and Glassick pistols in brass frame known, and the Leech and Rigdon/Rigdon and Ansley pistols had steel frames, you must admit that the Confederacy had great problems procuring raw iron and producing steel.

It was an agrarian society with little manufacturing capabilities compared to the Union. It was a cotton based economic platform that was very unprepared for a Civil war in the long run and therefore was not ready for what was perceived early on in the war as a few skirmishes and then it was over.

We all know happened next.

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Old January 2, 2017, 07:26 PM   #27
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There was also the lesser known Shawk & McLanahan.



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Old January 2, 2017, 07:38 PM   #28
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I have pictures! Bear with me.. I'm trying to get em up to Photobucket and we're having some really ghastly weather right now in south Alabama.

They're coming shortly!!
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Old January 2, 2017, 07:46 PM   #29
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Old January 2, 2017, 09:00 PM   #30
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Boy it sure does look mighty thin between chambers to me... Anybody else?

If it has been bored out to .50, and that brass frame to boot, Id be pretty freaked out about trying to fire it. Even on a steel frame the soft metal of the Italian revolvers would be mighty suspect to me, if the between chamber walls where as thin as they look to me on that second pic.
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Old January 2, 2017, 09:21 PM   #31
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I dunno, there's not much meat on an 1858 cylinder to start with. It looks to me like a .44. What markings are on it?
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Old January 2, 2017, 10:07 PM   #32
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It could just be angle makes it look thin to me... Plus all mine are Pietta so probably a bit larger then some to begin with.

Eh... Even with my "good eyes" on the only thing I can make out is maybe a serial number, towards the rear of the barrel???
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Old January 2, 2017, 11:09 PM   #33
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Could it be that someone took a .44 and bored it out to .50?
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Old January 2, 2017, 11:23 PM   #34
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You need to try to get some better photos. If you don't have a camera, you might try to use a magnifying lens in front of your cell phone's camera. Move the lens and phone closer together then farther apart and change the distance from the pistol to the lens, until you can see a good picture on your phone. A little more light on the subject would help too.

After experimenting with that, see if you can get closeups of any markings on the pistol. It would help greatly.

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Old January 2, 2017, 11:27 PM   #35
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Could it be that someone took a .44 and bored it out to .50?
Even if you bored it for a .490 rifle ball the chamber walls would be too thin.
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Old January 3, 2017, 07:28 AM   #36
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I will try to get better photos. The markings (a star over a box =made sense 1951) (star over PN =proof mark House Gardone and Brescia) (AC in a box=mfg. date 1977) This is all the marks that I could find. They may show in the photos. Thank you Beagle333 for posting the photos.
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Old January 3, 2017, 11:39 AM   #37
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Why do you think it's a .50?
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Old January 3, 2017, 02:59 PM   #38
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Gentlemen; I think Mr. Hawg was right OH GEEZ I was going by what the guy that sold the gun to me told me .and just looking at the cylinder it looked large. He gave me a box or 490 round balls and said this is what he used. He had to be mistaken. Today I decided to mic it and the cylinder is.446 and the barrel is
447 so it must be a 44 cal. I am so sorry for just taking someone else's word and not checking on my own. I apologies to all of you for trying to help someone to dumb to check first. You are a good bunch of guys THANKS WALT.
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Old January 3, 2017, 04:19 PM   #39
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No worries Walt, glad you got it figured out.
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Old January 3, 2017, 05:57 PM   #40
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Hey, if I didn't know better and a guy sold me a pistol and a box of balls..... how's one to know if they don't ask?
Now we just need to get you some of the right sized balls and light that puppy up!
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Old January 3, 2017, 07:56 PM   #41
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.49 caliber balls means you got more lead than you should have. Not bad.
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Old January 4, 2017, 10:48 AM   #42
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.490 would be a patched ball in a .50, that is what I use.
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Old January 4, 2017, 12:40 PM   #43
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I, once, forgot to pack my newly cast .457" balls but had plenty of .490" balls in my shooting box so I tried them in my Ruger. What a bear to load! I only loaded one cylinder and went back to my boolits instead. I wouldn't try doing that with a repro!

They sure did leave huge rings of lead!
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Old January 4, 2017, 08:53 PM   #44
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That must have been like punching out donuts and shooting the hole.
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