egyptian hakim

8mm · July 27, 2011, 01:35 PM

what is the best ammo to use in this rifle other then romanian.

chack · July 27, 2011, 04:21 PM

I pick mine up tomorrow. I've heard the turk ammo shouldn't be shot from them.

8mm · July 27, 2011, 04:29 PM

no it will crack the reciever and break parts and kill the extractor thats why i want to know if theirs other surplus ammo 8mm that will do damage did you get the tool with it.

rdf.hack · July 27, 2011, 06:02 PM

Yugoslavian ammo is what my friend shoots from his. Start out on the lowest setting and work your way up. He uses the brass cased yugo.

8mm · July 27, 2011, 06:10 PM

mine is in the middle the setting for the gas port.

rdf.hack · July 27, 2011, 06:42 PM

I don't know which was the valve turns. Can anyone who has one enlighten the OP and myself?

8mm · July 27, 2011, 06:44 PM

i dont think you can close it all the way mine looks to be left 3 clicks from middle works good.

doofus47 · July 27, 2011, 07:27 PM

I shot yugo 50's surplus and never had a problem. My gas port was pointing 6:30.
If I remember right, I initially shot S&B commercial and did fine, but I think I opened my port one click more toward 7-ish??? Hard to remember; I never went back after getting my hands on the yugo.
I shot a box of winchester silver box low recoil 8mm that a friend gave me and the Hakim didn't cycle well.

How does the Romanian work? Initially, my Hakim had cycling issues b/c of gunk in the chamber and would lock up trying to extract. For fear of returning to more time with the brushes, I always avoided lacquered ammo.

They're fun, but wear your glasses--surplus sometimes spits back.

8mm · July 27, 2011, 07:33 PM

the stuff i got is all brass case nothing elts.

Cheapshooter · July 28, 2011, 02:26 PM

A slight hi-jack, but while we are talking about the gas tube adjustment, is it supposed to be tight? Mine turns very easy, and will unscrew, and come out if you keep turning it. It doesn't seem to have any "clicks", even though there are marks for it to line up with. Is there supposed to be some kind of a stop, or spring that I am missing?

8mm · July 28, 2011, 06:06 PM

i dont believe that is has a spring in there.

ksstargazer · July 29, 2011, 07:38 AM

The best ammo I have shot in my Hakim are the 1970's Yugo (orange primer sealant), 1980's Romanian, and 1990's M76 Serbian 8mm. The M76 is sniper grade ammo and can't be beat. Century is currently selling some by the case http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=AM1634
Any other 8mm I have found to be either inconsistent in firing or too hot.

doofus47 · July 29, 2011, 10:05 AM

cheapshooter, there is a leaf spring that should fit around the valve. The spring is square-shaped, if I remember correctly, with some wings that set into detentes (fancy word for 'notches) in the housing of the gas valve.

Mine had been removed/fallen out/blown out (whatever) and was missing when I bought mine.
There's a guy named DelVecchio on gunbroker that sells all sorts of used parts. Get a valve adjuster and a leaf spring from him. Just search on "Hakim". I can't remember his handle. Nice guy. Probably $20 for each.

me26245 · August 3, 2011, 06:22 AM

I like shooting Egyptian 8mm in my Hakims, but you don't see much, if any of it around.
I've actually shot it in NRA hi-power rifle matchs and did well.
There is a little FN made 70's 8mm that can be found from time to time and it shoots well and is non-corrosive to boot.
With the current selection 8mm surplus on the market the 50's Yugo is your best bet I would think.

8mm · August 3, 2011, 09:10 PM

i have been looking at that ammo im buying in bulk so i dont run out.

HottAK47 · August 6, 2011, 07:44 PM

I shoot my Hakim more than anything else because its so mutch damn fun!

As mentioned avoid the Turk , and all the Yugo red sealed primer stuff is great. I have shot the 50s but wasn't satisfied with it in my Hakim and would only shoot it if its all I had. I have had it blow a topcover in my 1919 and carried a 50s Yugo primer imbeded in my gut for several years. I have had it lose primers in my Hakim, too. Romy works and is the most plesant to shoot.

The tab on the gas adjustment may just be bent if it is, bend it back and it should be good to go.

Get the 25 round magazine, its the titz at the range

8mm · August 12, 2011, 01:41 AM

i shot some romanian rounds from 55 works well. Also why are the turkish loads so hot enyway was tghere a purpose to it no one elts did that.

doofus47 · August 12, 2011, 10:27 AM

I don't know if the Turkish 8mm is so "hot" as much as it has a weird pressure curve that makes semi-auto use sketchy. If I remember from back in my 8mm homework days, I think that the Turkish pressure curve is longer; the end result will be that the lugs release and the bolt begins cycling while the high point of the pressure is just being reached.
If my memory is failing me, I'm sure someone will correct me and I will be glad to be corrected.

My pet theory is that the longer pressure curve is meant to get the most out of the longbarrel Turkish Mausers. Again, people who eat Mauser facts for breakfast lunch and dinner will have the definitive answers.

8mm · August 12, 2011, 06:53 PM

i got a bunch of wierd 8mm turkisk the rounds weigh nothing ther are from 45 i think the bullets are hollow wish i could try one out none of my guns can shoot turkish.

July 27, 2011, 01:35 PM	#1
8mm Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2011 Location: east coast Posts: 105	egyptian hakim what is the best ammo to use in this rifle other then romanian.

July 27, 2011, 06:44 PM	#7
8mm Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2011 Location: east coast Posts: 105	i dont think you can close it all the way mine looks to be left 3 clicks from middle works good. Last edited by 8mm; July 27, 2011 at 07:05 PM.

July 28, 2011, 02:26 PM	#10
Cheapshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 8,306	A slight hi-jack, but while we are talking about the gas tube adjustment, is it supposed to be tight? Mine turns very easy, and will unscrew, and come out if you keep turning it. It doesn't seem to have any "clicks", even though there are marks for it to line up with. Is there supposed to be some kind of a stop, or spring that I am missing? __________________ Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!

July 28, 2011, 06:06 PM	#11
8mm Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2011 Location: east coast Posts: 105	i dont believe that is has a spring in there. Last edited by 8mm; July 28, 2011 at 09:31 PM.

August 3, 2011, 06:22 AM	#14
me26245 Member Join Date: April 3, 2008 Location: midwest Posts: 42	8mm I like shooting Egyptian 8mm in my Hakims, but you don't see much, if any of it around. I've actually shot it in NRA hi-power rifle matchs and did well. There is a little FN made 70's 8mm that can be found from time to time and it shoots well and is non-corrosive to boot. With the current selection 8mm surplus on the market the 50's Yugo is your best bet I would think.

July 27, 2011, 04:21 PM	#2
chack Junior member Join Date: May 24, 2011 Location: dixie Posts: 477	I pick mine up tomorrow. I've heard the turk ammo shouldn't be shot from them.

July 27, 2011, 04:29 PM	#3
8mm Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2011 Location: east coast Posts: 105	no it will crack the reciever and break parts and kill the extractor thats why i want to know if theirs other surplus ammo 8mm that will do damage did you get the tool with it.

July 27, 2011, 06:02 PM	#4
rdf.hack Senior Member Join Date: June 7, 2011 Posts: 173	Yugoslavian ammo is what my friend shoots from his. Start out on the lowest setting and work your way up. He uses the brass cased yugo.

July 27, 2011, 06:10 PM	#5
8mm Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2011 Location: east coast Posts: 105	mine is in the middle the setting for the gas port.

July 27, 2011, 06:42 PM	#6
rdf.hack Senior Member Join Date: June 7, 2011 Posts: 173	I don't know which was the valve turns. Can anyone who has one enlighten the OP and myself?

July 27, 2011, 07:27 PM	#8
doofus47 Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2010 Location: live in a in a house when i'm not in a tent Posts: 2,483	I shot yugo 50's surplus and never had a problem. My gas port was pointing 6:30. If I remember right, I initially shot S&B commercial and did fine, but I think I opened my port one click more toward 7-ish??? Hard to remember; I never went back after getting my hands on the yugo. I shot a box of winchester silver box low recoil 8mm that a friend gave me and the Hakim didn't cycle well. How does the Romanian work? Initially, my Hakim had cycling issues b/c of gunk in the chamber and would lock up trying to extract. For fear of returning to more time with the brushes, I always avoided lacquered ammo. They're fun, but wear your glasses--surplus sometimes spits back.

July 27, 2011, 07:33 PM	#9
8mm Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2011 Location: east coast Posts: 105	the stuff i got is all brass case nothing elts.

July 29, 2011, 07:38 AM	#12
ksstargazer Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2004 Location: Flint Hills of Kansas Posts: 316	The best ammo I have shot in my Hakim are the 1970's Yugo (orange primer sealant), 1980's Romanian, and 1990's M76 Serbian 8mm. The M76 is sniper grade ammo and can't be beat. Century is currently selling some by the case http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=AM1634 Any other 8mm I have found to be either inconsistent in firing or too hot.

July 29, 2011, 10:05 AM	#13
doofus47 Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2010 Location: live in a in a house when i'm not in a tent Posts: 2,483	cheapshooter, there is a leaf spring that should fit around the valve. The spring is square-shaped, if I remember correctly, with some wings that set into detentes (fancy word for 'notches) in the housing of the gas valve. Mine had been removed/fallen out/blown out (whatever) and was missing when I bought mine. There's a guy named DelVecchio on gunbroker that sells all sorts of used parts. Get a valve adjuster and a leaf spring from him. Just search on "Hakim". I can't remember his handle. Nice guy. Probably $20 for each.

August 3, 2011, 09:10 PM	#15
8mm Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2011 Location: east coast Posts: 105	i have been looking at that ammo im buying in bulk so i dont run out.

August 6, 2011, 07:44 PM	#16
HottAK47 Member Join Date: January 6, 2011 Posts: 29	I shoot my Hakim more than anything else because its so mutch damn fun! As mentioned avoid the Turk , and all the Yugo red sealed primer stuff is great. I have shot the 50s but wasn't satisfied with it in my Hakim and would only shoot it if its all I had. I have had it blow a topcover in my 1919 and carried a 50s Yugo primer imbeded in my gut for several years. I have had it lose primers in my Hakim, too. Romy works and is the most plesant to shoot. The tab on the gas adjustment may just be bent if it is, bend it back and it should be good to go. Get the 25 round magazine, its the titz at the range

August 12, 2011, 01:41 AM	#17
8mm Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2011 Location: east coast Posts: 105	i shot some romanian rounds from 55 works well. Also why are the turkish loads so hot enyway was tghere a purpose to it no one elts did that.

August 12, 2011, 10:27 AM	#18
doofus47 Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2010 Location: live in a in a house when i'm not in a tent Posts: 2,483	I don't know if the Turkish 8mm is so "hot" as much as it has a weird pressure curve that makes semi-auto use sketchy. If I remember from back in my 8mm homework days, I think that the Turkish pressure curve is longer; the end result will be that the lugs release and the bolt begins cycling while the high point of the pressure is just being reached. If my memory is failing me, I'm sure someone will correct me and I will be glad to be corrected. My pet theory is that the longer pressure curve is meant to get the most out of the longbarrel Turkish Mausers. Again, people who eat Mauser facts for breakfast lunch and dinner will have the definitive answers.

August 12, 2011, 06:53 PM	#19
8mm Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2011 Location: east coast Posts: 105	i got a bunch of wierd 8mm turkisk the rounds weigh nothing ther are from 45 i think the bullets are hollow wish i could try one out none of my guns can shoot turkish.