1913 Czechoslovakian pistol not chambering second round

Ruger .22 · January 9, 2012, 07:43 PM

Well okay I am really new to guns I just got my first one about a week ago but its like this we went to the gun range in November I believe or October and he brought it was my Great Grandpas he brought it back from World War 2 he was a B25 bomber pilot he picked it up off of a soldier probably Czechoslovakian and well he never fired it during his service or after the war but when my Grandpa was 16 they shot it and it was perfectly fine but now the problem is that it has the last magazine for it in the United States and the last magazine broke now this one isnt working it will not chamber the second round, it will fire the first perfectly fine but then it gets all jammed up it fires .308 ammo this a family item and its in 90% prestine condition so I prefer it be in firing condition as my Grandpa loves shooting it.

the rifleer · January 9, 2012, 07:57 PM

Simple, just don't load the second round...

But if that doesn't work you may try googling and seeing if you can get an extra mag for it. If you can't take it to a gun smith, he may be able to fix it.

James K · January 9, 2012, 08:00 PM

Some good pictures would help. It is possible that there are magazines available for that gun or that some other magazine would fit, but without pictures or a more complete discription of the markings, we can't be of much help.

Jim

Ruger .22 · January 9, 2012, 08:01 PM

I will try and get a picture of it tomorrow if he will let me

Magnum Wheel Man · January 10, 2012, 06:53 PM

gyvel · January 10, 2012, 07:01 PM

A B52 pilot in WWII. Hmmmm.....

Buzzcook · January 10, 2012, 07:41 PM

Ruger: what's the make and model of the pistol? Post some pics as well.

The odds are you can find an original replacement magazine. The thing about military handguns is they made a lot of them.

Does it look like this?

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/chex/cz-vz3-e.html

Magnum Wheel Man · January 11, 2012, 11:26 AM

^^^ that's a good guess, though I think that's chambered for 32 acp

I have a case of various vintage early Czech handguns...

if that's not it, try looking here...

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=263483

gyvel · January 11, 2012, 11:34 AM

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^^^ that's a good guess, though I think that's chambered for 32 acp

The CZ 38 (photo) is chambered for .380.

Magnum Wheel Man · January 11, 2012, 11:49 AM

haven't had mine out for a while...

anyway the OP stated

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it fires .308 ammo

so it must be a gun chambered in 7.62 X 25

that said... of all my old Czech handguns, I think the CZ-52 is the only one chambered in 7.62 X 25

James K · January 11, 2012, 05:59 PM

Technically, there would be no such thing as a Czech 1913 pistol because Czechoslovakia didn't exist in 1913. We really need those pictures.

Jim

Magnum Wheel Man · January 11, 2012, 06:05 PM

Hmm... broom handle Mauser ??? would be 30 caliber...

Ruger .22 · January 11, 2012, 06:53 PM

I will get a pic of it tonight sometime hopefully and yes that gun does look like his and I do know that it didnt exist in 1913 but thats where the gun came from

Buzzcook · January 11, 2012, 07:57 PM

Might be this.
http://www.mauserguns.com/gungalleryModel1914.asp

grumpa72 · January 11, 2012, 08:05 PM

I think that must be the longest run-on sentence in the history of the English language! Back to the original point - I have no clue!

Winchester_73 · January 11, 2012, 09:02 PM

I doubt its a Mauser. When the OP says "308" I think he transposed the numbers and meant 380. While the CZ 38 is a good guess, I bet its a CZ 24 which was made in much larger numbers (assuming that the gun is CZ at all

) .380 wasn't exactly popular back then in Europe, at least not to the extent that 32 acp was.

The CZ 24 is top left in this family photo. My newest CZ is a CZ 38

Ruger .22 · January 11, 2012, 11:16 PM

Yeah its a CZ from 1913 and it looks exactly like all the ones in the pics looks like your biggest CZ but it is 100% for sure from 1913

Buzzcook · January 11, 2012, 11:30 PM

Can't be from 1913, for the reasons given above and that the gun you're pointing out wasn't made till 1937.

gyvel · January 12, 2012, 12:28 AM

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Can't be from 1913, for the reasons given above and that the gun you're pointing out wasn't made till 1937.

And, while we're on that subject, there were no B-52s in WWII.

Winchester_73 · January 12, 2012, 07:35 AM

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And, while we're on that subject, there were no B-52s in WWII.

The OP said "B-25" also known as the "Mitchell" which was a twin engine propeller bomber of WWII. IIRC the Dr Doolittle raid on Tokyo was accomplished with B-25s.

Perhaps the OP edited his post.

gyvel · January 13, 2012, 02:08 AM

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Perhaps the OP edited his post.

Yes. The original post said B-52.

January 9, 2012, 07:43 PM	#1
Ruger .22 Junior Member Join Date: January 9, 2012 Posts: 7	1913 Czechoslovakian pistol not chambering second round Well okay I am really new to guns I just got my first one about a week ago but its like this we went to the gun range in November I believe or October and he brought it was my Great Grandpas he brought it back from World War 2 he was a B25 bomber pilot he picked it up off of a soldier probably Czechoslovakian and well he never fired it during his service or after the war but when my Grandpa was 16 they shot it and it was perfectly fine but now the problem is that it has the last magazine for it in the United States and the last magazine broke now this one isnt working it will not chamber the second round, it will fire the first perfectly fine but then it gets all jammed up it fires .308 ammo this a family item and its in 90% prestine condition so I prefer it be in firing condition as my Grandpa loves shooting it. Last edited by Ruger .22; January 11, 2012 at 06:54 PM.

January 9, 2012, 07:57 PM	#2
the rifleer Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2008 Location: Sunny California Posts: 1,281	Simple, just don't load the second round... But if that doesn't work you may try googling and seeing if you can get an extra mag for it. If you can't take it to a gun smith, he may be able to fix it. __________________ There is no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid people.

January 10, 2012, 06:53 PM	#5
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	__________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust... Last edited by Magnum Wheel Man; January 10, 2012 at 06:59 PM.

January 10, 2012, 07:41 PM	#7
Buzzcook Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 6,126	Ruger: what's the make and model of the pistol? Post some pics as well. The odds are you can find an original replacement magazine. The thing about military handguns is they made a lot of them. Does it look like this? http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/chex/cz-vz3-e.html Last edited by Buzzcook; January 10, 2012 at 07:49 PM.

January 11, 2012, 11:26 AM	#8
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	^^^ that's a good guess, though I think that's chambered for 32 acp I have a case of various vintage early Czech handguns... if that's not it, try looking here... http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=263483 __________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust...

January 9, 2012, 08:00 PM	#3
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Some good pictures would help. It is possible that there are magazines available for that gun or that some other magazine would fit, but without pictures or a more complete discription of the markings, we can't be of much help. Jim

January 9, 2012, 08:01 PM	#4
Ruger .22 Junior Member Join Date: January 9, 2012 Posts: 7	I will try and get a picture of it tomorrow if he will let me

January 10, 2012, 07:01 PM	#6
gyvel Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2009 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,172	A B52 pilot in WWII. Hmmmm.....

January 11, 2012, 05:59 PM	#11
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Technically, there would be no such thing as a Czech 1913 pistol because Czechoslovakia didn't exist in 1913. We really need those pictures. Jim

January 11, 2012, 06:05 PM	#12
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	Hmm... broom handle Mauser ??? would be 30 caliber... __________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust...

January 11, 2012, 06:53 PM	#13
Ruger .22 Junior Member Join Date: January 9, 2012 Posts: 7	I will get a pic of it tonight sometime hopefully and yes that gun does look like his and I do know that it didnt exist in 1913 but thats where the gun came from

January 11, 2012, 07:57 PM	#14
Buzzcook Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 6,126	Might be this. http://www.mauserguns.com/gungalleryModel1914.asp Last edited by Buzzcook; January 11, 2012 at 08:03 PM.

January 11, 2012, 08:05 PM	#15
grumpa72 Senior Member Join Date: April 5, 2009 Posts: 487	I think that must be the longest run-on sentence in the history of the English language! Back to the original point - I have no clue!

January 11, 2012, 09:02 PM	#16
Winchester_73 Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2008 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 2,863	I doubt its a Mauser. When the OP says "308" I think he transposed the numbers and meant 380. While the CZ 38 is a good guess, I bet its a CZ 24 which was made in much larger numbers (assuming that the gun is CZ at all ) .380 wasn't exactly popular back then in Europe, at least not to the extent that 32 acp was. The CZ 24 is top left in this family photo. My newest CZ is a CZ 38 __________________ Winchester 73, the TFL user that won the west

January 11, 2012, 11:16 PM	#17
Ruger .22 Junior Member Join Date: January 9, 2012 Posts: 7	Yeah its a CZ from 1913 and it looks exactly like all the ones in the pics looks like your biggest CZ but it is 100% for sure from 1913

January 11, 2012, 11:30 PM	#18
Buzzcook Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 6,126	Can't be from 1913, for the reasons given above and that the gun you're pointing out wasn't made till 1937.