Baton in CA?

devinf · October 29, 2001, 11:33 AM

I'm pretty sure they're illegal, but I wanted to double check. Can you carry a baton (ASP) legally in CA?

Spray isn't always the way to go and I wanted to carry something that would allow me to do some extra damage if need be, and since I don't have a CCW I'm looking for alternatives.

Thanks and regards,
Devin

Jay Baker · October 30, 2001, 10:27 PM

Devinf, I don't know about the present, but when I left Kalif., four years ago, it was illegal to carry an ASP... or other "police" batons, such as the PR24, etc., unless you were a cop.

Given that the communistnazi politicians are even worse today, and in total control, I doubt that they've made "batons" legal for anyone, other than cops and criminals.

FWIW. J.B.

madgrad · October 31, 2001, 02:46 AM

In CA carrying one is an automatic Felony. Unless your a cop.

Golden Bear · November 12, 2001, 08:22 PM

MadGrad said: "In CA carrying one is an automatic Felony. Unless your a cop."

Does anybody have references for this? What the letter of the law say about this?

Thanks

~ Golden Bear

wahuwa · November 12, 2001, 09:57 PM

My suggestion is go to the local library or do a google search for findlaw. From what I read Golden Bear is right. Possession is a felony. CA's definition of a weapon is so long I'm surprised they let you even have fingernails in CA.

wahuwa · November 12, 2001, 10:43 PM

This probably covers it:

12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following
is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year
or in the state prison:
(1) Manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the
state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives,
lends, or possesses any cane gun or wallet gun, any undetectable
firearm, any firearm which is not immediately recognizable as a
firearm, any camouflaging firearm container, any ammunition which
contains or consists of any flechette dart, any bullet containing or
carrying an explosive agent, any ballistic knife, any multiburst
trigger activator, any nunchaku, any short-barreled shotgun, any
short-barreled rifle, any metal knuckles, any belt buckle knife, any
leaded cane, any zip gun, any shuriken, any unconventional pistol,
any lipstick case knife, any cane sword, any shobi-zue, any air gauge
knife, any writing pen knife, any metal military practice
handgrenade or metal replica handgrenade, or any instrument or weapon
of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slungshot, billy,
sandclub, sap, or sandbag.

hth,
wahuwa

parabellum9x19 · November 13, 2001, 03:02 AM

The cops and politicians in Calif want you to be the victim. They want you to be beaten or killed by the bad guy. They want their citizens to have no way to defend themselves. All you can carry is pepper spray but pepper doesn't work many times. You can pack a folding knife or fixed blade in sheath in plain view but it won't be long before they take that away too.

Dave3006 · November 14, 2001, 04:12 PM

Check out the Airtaser. www.airtaser.com. They have videos on their site. This is the best legal weapon in KKKalifornia. I have one in my car. I even tested it on myself. It knocks you down cold.

It has limitations of course. One shot, then it is a contact weapon. All in all, it might be better than a gun or knife in some situations. I would sure use it faster than I would pull my knife in a non-life threatening situation.

Dave

sinecure · November 15, 2001, 04:54 PM

So what is an "airtaser?"

Tried the link, but it didn't work.

There are many things that can be used in place of "batons." I have a table leg off an oak nightstand that serves perfectly, and the screw-in fitting on the end shows that it really is a table leg. A "tire billy" used by truck drivers, a fiberglass or wooden "fish billy" used by offshore fishermen, even a 1/2"-drive sized braker bar would do the trick. I guess what I'm saying is that something that has another declared utility that can be used as a baton seems to be a logical choice. I've never heard of anybody being arrested (even in California

) for "possession of a table leg."

Dave3006 · November 15, 2001, 05:12 PM

Good ideas. Dual use technology. It works for the Iraqis too. Just type http://www.airtaser.com. This thing works and is Kali legal.

October 29, 2001, 11:33 AM	#1
devinf Member Join Date: January 15, 2001 Location: Santa Ana, CA Posts: 24	Baton in CA? I'm pretty sure they're illegal, but I wanted to double check. Can you carry a baton (ASP) legally in CA? Spray isn't always the way to go and I wanted to carry something that would allow me to do some extra damage if need be, and since I don't have a CCW I'm looking for alternatives. Thanks and regards, Devin

October 31, 2001, 02:46 AM	#3
madgrad Member Join Date: July 19, 2001 Posts: 58	ASP Baton In CA carrying one is an automatic Felony. Unless your a cop.

November 12, 2001, 08:22 PM	#4
Golden Bear Junior Member Join Date: November 12, 2001 Posts: 3	Sources MadGrad said: "In CA carrying one is an automatic Felony. Unless your a cop." Does anybody have references for this? What the letter of the law say about this? Thanks ~ Golden Bear

November 12, 2001, 09:57 PM	#5
wahuwa Member Join Date: November 2, 2001 Posts: 16	Baton in CA My suggestion is go to the local library or do a google search for findlaw. From what I read Golden Bear is right. Possession is a felony. CA's definition of a weapon is so long I'm surprised they let you even have fingernails in CA. __________________ Don't think of it as being outnumbered, think of it as a wide target selection. Last edited by wahuwa; November 12, 2001 at 10:27 PM.

November 12, 2001, 10:43 PM	#6
wahuwa Member Join Date: November 2, 2001 Posts: 16	This probably covers it: 12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison: (1) Manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, lends, or possesses any cane gun or wallet gun, any undetectable firearm, any firearm which is not immediately recognizable as a firearm, any camouflaging firearm container, any ammunition which contains or consists of any flechette dart, any bullet containing or carrying an explosive agent, any ballistic knife, any multiburst trigger activator, any nunchaku, any short-barreled shotgun, any short-barreled rifle, any metal knuckles, any belt buckle knife, any leaded cane, any zip gun, any shuriken, any unconventional pistol, any lipstick case knife, any cane sword, any shobi-zue, any air gauge knife, any writing pen knife, any metal military practice handgrenade or metal replica handgrenade, or any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slungshot, billy, sandclub, sap, or sandbag. hth, wahuwa __________________ Don't think of it as being outnumbered, think of it as a wide target selection.

October 30, 2001, 10:27 PM	#2
Jay Baker Senior Member Join Date: March 26, 2000 Location: S.W. Idaho Posts: 1,294	Devinf, I don't know about the present, but when I left Kalif., four years ago, it was illegal to carry an ASP... or other "police" batons, such as the PR24, etc., unless you were a cop. Given that the communistnazi politicians are even worse today, and in total control, I doubt that they've made "batons" legal for anyone, other than cops and criminals. FWIW. J.B.

November 13, 2001, 03:02 AM	#7
parabellum9x19 Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2001 Posts: 113	The cops and politicians in Calif want you to be the victim. They want you to be beaten or killed by the bad guy. They want their citizens to have no way to defend themselves. All you can carry is pepper spray but pepper doesn't work many times. You can pack a folding knife or fixed blade in sheath in plain view but it won't be long before they take that away too.

November 14, 2001, 04:12 PM	#8
Dave3006 Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2000 Location: Lake Forest, CA USA Posts: 493	Check out the Airtaser. www.airtaser.com. They have videos on their site. This is the best legal weapon in KKKalifornia. I have one in my car. I even tested it on myself. It knocks you down cold. It has limitations of course. One shot, then it is a contact weapon. All in all, it might be better than a gun or knife in some situations. I would sure use it faster than I would pull my knife in a non-life threatening situation. Dave

November 15, 2001, 04:54 PM	#9
sinecure Member Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: Lost Angels, CA Posts: 84	airtaser? So what is an "airtaser?" Tried the link, but it didn't work. There are many things that can be used in place of "batons." I have a table leg off an oak nightstand that serves perfectly, and the screw-in fitting on the end shows that it really is a table leg. A "tire billy" used by truck drivers, a fiberglass or wooden "fish billy" used by offshore fishermen, even a 1/2"-drive sized braker bar would do the trick. I guess what I'm saying is that something that has another declared utility that can be used as a baton seems to be a logical choice. I've never heard of anybody being arrested (even in California) for "possession of a table leg." __________________ As always, MOO. [My Opinions Only] sin

November 15, 2001, 05:12 PM	#10
Dave3006 Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2000 Location: Lake Forest, CA USA Posts: 493	Good ideas. Dual use technology. It works for the Iraqis too. Just type http://www.airtaser.com. This thing works and is Kali legal.

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