CZ-75 Compact?

**Aguila Blanca** · April 12, 2021, 06:50 PM

Does anyone know when CZ introduced the CZ-75 Compact with the decocker? I'm trying to help a writer who knows nothing about guns get her gun background correct enough that it won't wave any red flags in front of readers who know something about guns.

Related question (for the same writer): Is the Walther PPK and PPK/S a traditional DA/SA action, or is it DAO?

Siggy-06 · April 12, 2021, 08:26 PM

That is the CZ 75 Compact BD, and was only made in limited runs, however the stock safety can be switched out with the decocker. The PCR with is a compact with an aluminum frame comes with a decocker. The CZ 75 was designed in 1975 and the different variants came out at different years(don’t have the exact one handy). They also make the P-01 with a steel frame, also in limited runs as well, great shooters.

**Aguila Blanca** · April 12, 2021, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Siggy-06

That is the CZ 75 Compact BD, and was only made in limited runs, however the stock safety can be switched out with the decocker. The PCR with is a compact with an aluminum frame comes with a decocker. The CZ 75 was designed in 1975 and the different variants came out at different years(don’t have the exact one handy). They also make the P-01 with a steel frame, also in limited runs as well, great shooters.

I know it's the CZ-75 Compact BD. I know the CZ-75 was designed in 1975. I need to know what year the Compact with the decocker was introduced. That's the question. This author has a story set in 1983. If THAT EXACT model was not available in 1983, then obviously she can't have her character using it.

Sharkbite · April 12, 2021, 09:52 PM

PPK is a DA/SA design. Cant help with the CZ question.

**Aguila Blanca** · April 12, 2021, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharkbite

PPK is a DA/SA design. Cant help with the CZ question.

Thank you.

Siggy-06 · April 13, 2021, 05:32 AM

The CZ 75 was not widely available in the U.S. until 1993, when Action Arms began importing it. So if she is writing about an American character in the U.S.A. setting, then no she wouldn’t have any CZ unless she specifically went out of her way to get one. The 75 D compact began production in 1997 after police trials in 1996, and then Israel ordered them with a decocker in 1999. This led to the PCR in 2000-2001 production.

jdc1244 · April 13, 2021, 06:42 AM

The P-01 is aluminum-framed.

sevt_chevelle · April 13, 2021, 05:22 PM

Nope, P01 with decocker is alloy
P01 with safety is steel framed. Uncommon gun that CZ makes in small batches.

The above time frame sounds correct.

The compact decockers were steel frames. Very rare
PCRs have an alloy frame.
The difference between P01 and PCR P01 has rail and no LCI.

The alloy frames have vertical serations on the grip and an upswept beaver tail.

**Aguila Blanca** · April 13, 2021, 09:21 PM

Thanks, Gents

jmstr · September 18, 2021, 02:29 AM

BTW- my 2020 CZ 75D Compact is an alloy frame- not steel. According to CZUSA's website, they get whatever they can and sell it: the CZ 75 D Compact is just a rollmark difference compared to the PCR.

But, they are alloy frames. I just detail stripped it. it wasn't steel.

Jabski · September 18, 2021, 10:26 AM

Not trying to stir things up, but I find this post interesting. Unusual, actually.
You posted an almost identical post a LONG time ago. Almost word for word.
Is the writer really having that much trouble finding information on CZ pistols?
Just curious…..

**Aguila Blanca** · September 18, 2021, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jabski

Not trying to stir things up, but I find this post interesting. Unusual, actually.
You posted an almost identical post a LONG time ago. Almost word for word.

To whom is this addressed?

I made the original post in April -- five months ago. Are you saying I asked the same question once before? If so, I certainly don't remember having done so.

Jabski · September 18, 2021, 04:48 PM

Yes Aguilar, to you. Should have clarified that.
My memory must be getting bad. I thought I remember another post from before that. Hmm….

jmstr · September 18, 2021, 06:05 PM

Jabski, I don't know if you were aiming the comment at Aguila Blanca or myself. He has spoken for his comments, but you posted immediately after mine.

I didn't own a CZ until about 4 weeks before your join date.

While I realize that we all will read a lot on forums before we join, the fact that you joined today to make the comment and then suggest we are stirring the pot seems, well, interesting...

Jabski · September 18, 2021, 07:46 PM

Jmstr, I was replying to him. I don’t know how to reply to a particular post, so I replied about the post being something that I thought I saw a long time ago. Which is what I said. Also thought that it was odd, in that context. He reminded me that the post was from April, and I replied about my memory not being so great.
Didn’t really notice the post date before I replied. Which means I guess I saw it from APRIL and FORGOT.
And yeah, I created an account to reply to that. Sorry if you have problems with that, and TBH, I didn’t even notice your post.
I honestly thought I had been a member here a long time ago, but couldn’t find anything in my list of passwords.
No wait, I just re read YOUR post. I was saying I wasn’t trying to stir things up, not the other way around.

**JohnKSa** · September 18, 2021, 11:20 PM

Ok, let's move on. Back to the topic of the post.

**Aguila Blanca** · September 19, 2021, 12:58 AM

Since the question was answered and I passed the information along to the writer who asked about it months ago, there's not much need to continue this discussion. It seems to have taken a rather strange turn, so I think we'll just close it before it gets any more weird.

April 12, 2021, 06:50 PM	#1
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,460	CZ-75 Compact? Does anyone know when CZ introduced the CZ-75 Compact with the decocker? I'm trying to help a writer who knows nothing about guns get her gun background correct enough that it won't wave any red flags in front of readers who know something about guns. Related question (for the same writer): Is the Walther PPK and PPK/S a traditional DA/SA action, or is it DAO? __________________ NRA Life Member / Certified Instructor NRA Chief RSO / CMP RSO 1911 Certified Armorer Jeepaholic

April 12, 2021, 08:26 PM	#2
Siggy-06 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 1,148	That is the CZ 75 Compact BD, and was only made in limited runs, however the stock safety can be switched out with the decocker. The PCR with is a compact with an aluminum frame comes with a decocker. The CZ 75 was designed in 1975 and the different variants came out at different years(don’t have the exact one handy). They also make the P-01 with a steel frame, also in limited runs as well, great shooters. __________________ Flicks just like a lighter, just a different kind of fire.

April 13, 2021, 05:32 AM	#6
Siggy-06 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 1,148	The CZ 75 was not widely available in the U.S. until 1993, when Action Arms began importing it. So if she is writing about an American character in the U.S.A. setting, then no she wouldn’t have any CZ unless she specifically went out of her way to get one. The 75 D compact began production in 1997 after police trials in 1996, and then Israel ordered them with a decocker in 1999. This led to the PCR in 2000-2001 production. __________________ Flicks just like a lighter, just a different kind of fire.

April 13, 2021, 09:21 PM	#9
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,460	Thanks, Gents __________________ NRA Life Member / Certified Instructor NRA Chief RSO / CMP RSO 1911 Certified Armorer Jeepaholic

September 18, 2021, 11:20 PM	#16
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,973	Ok, let's move on. Back to the topic of the post. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

April 12, 2021, 09:52 PM	#4
Sharkbite Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2013 Location: Western slope of Colorado Posts: 3,679	PPK is a DA/SA design. Cant help with the CZ question.

April 13, 2021, 06:42 AM	#7
jdc1244 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 532	The P-01 is aluminum-framed.

April 13, 2021, 05:22 PM	#8
sevt_chevelle Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2013 Posts: 324	Nope, P01 with decocker is alloy P01 with safety is steel framed. Uncommon gun that CZ makes in small batches. The above time frame sounds correct. The compact decockers were steel frames. Very rare PCRs have an alloy frame. The difference between P01 and PCR P01 has rail and no LCI. The alloy frames have vertical serations on the grip and an upswept beaver tail.

September 18, 2021, 02:29 AM	#10
jmstr Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2001 Location: San Joaquin Valley, CA Posts: 1,281	BTW- my 2020 CZ 75D Compact is an alloy frame- not steel. According to CZUSA's website, they get whatever they can and sell it: the CZ 75 D Compact is just a rollmark difference compared to the PCR. But, they are alloy frames. I just detail stripped it. it wasn't steel.

September 18, 2021, 10:26 AM	#11
Jabski Junior Member Join Date: September 18, 2021 Posts: 5	Not trying to stir things up, but I find this post interesting. Unusual, actually. You posted an almost identical post a LONG time ago. Almost word for word. Is the writer really having that much trouble finding information on CZ pistols? Just curious…..

September 18, 2021, 04:48 PM	#13
Jabski Junior Member Join Date: September 18, 2021 Posts: 5	Yes Aguilar, to you. Should have clarified that. My memory must be getting bad. I thought I remember another post from before that. Hmm….

September 18, 2021, 06:05 PM	#14
jmstr Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2001 Location: San Joaquin Valley, CA Posts: 1,281	Jabski, I don't know if you were aiming the comment at Aguila Blanca or myself. He has spoken for his comments, but you posted immediately after mine. I didn't own a CZ until about 4 weeks before your join date. While I realize that we all will read a lot on forums before we join, the fact that you joined today to make the comment and then suggest we are stirring the pot seems, well, interesting...

September 18, 2021, 07:46 PM	#15
Jabski Junior Member Join Date: September 18, 2021 Posts: 5	Jmstr, I was replying to him. I don’t know how to reply to a particular post, so I replied about the post being something that I thought I saw a long time ago. Which is what I said. Also thought that it was odd, in that context. He reminded me that the post was from April, and I replied about my memory not being so great. Didn’t really notice the post date before I replied. Which means I guess I saw it from APRIL and FORGOT. And yeah, I created an account to reply to that. Sorry if you have problems with that, and TBH, I didn’t even notice your post. I honestly thought I had been a member here a long time ago, but couldn’t find anything in my list of passwords. No wait, I just re read YOUR post. I was saying I wasn’t trying to stir things up, not the other way around.

September 19, 2021, 12:58 AM	#17
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,460	Since the question was answered and I passed the information along to the writer who asked about it months ago, there's not much need to continue this discussion. It seems to have taken a rather strange turn, so I think we'll just close it before it gets any more weird. __________________ NRA Life Member / Certified Instructor NRA Chief RSO / CMP RSO 1911 Certified Armorer Jeepaholic