Help me please my gun wont come apart

tacdriver22mk2 · July 7, 2009, 08:36 PM

ok guys agter about 1250-1500 rounds through my ruger mkII i realy need to take it apart to clean it and the main spring housing latch swings out but as i go to pull the pin securing the bolt out it wount budge and i freaking realy was bearing down on it and nothing can any one help i put oil in it tryed smacking where the pin pertrudes behind the rear sight and nothing

please help

jlbpa · July 7, 2009, 08:40 PM

have you tried a piece of leather or something similar to protect the surface of the latch and grabbing it with a pair of pliers or maybe even vise grips

tacdriver22mk2 · July 7, 2009, 08:45 PM

no im probably going to take it to a smith at gander tomorrow but just wanted to know if i can do something cheaper but thanks ill try it now

Dave_D55 · July 7, 2009, 08:46 PM

You are doing what I would - I would also try penetrating oil.

I have a Mk III, somewhat similar in design. When it was new - I used a wooden dowel and a hammer to pound the bolt-stop pin out. It got loose enough to do by hand after 5 or 6 disassemblies.

I recommend this forum where a lot of Mark II and Mark III experts hang out.

Regards,
Dave

Dave_D55 · July 7, 2009, 08:52 PM

The manual says to first dry-fire the pistol to move the hammer to it's fired (forward) position.

Not sure if that would prevent the removal of the bolt-stop pin but I would make sure you are going by the book.

Good luck,
Dave

Colt1911forever · July 7, 2009, 08:54 PM

http://www.1bad69.com/ruger/field_strip.htm

melchloboo · July 8, 2009, 09:17 AM

I also have to sometimes use a punch and hammer to get the bolt stop out. One good tap usually does it.

Steve1911 · July 8, 2009, 10:30 AM

Have you tried dynomite...?

MemphisJim · July 8, 2009, 11:56 AM

I had the same experience with mine about three years ago. I called Ruger in Prescott and was put through to a young lady. After I explained my predicament and she got her laughing under control, she talked me through a number of steps that magically freed everything up and let me disassemble my 22/45. She then talked me through the correct reassembly process. For me, it was worth the price of the phone call. Wish I could remember her name so you could ask for her.

predecessor · July 8, 2009, 12:06 PM

This is why I don't own a Ruger Mark

curt.45 · July 8, 2009, 01:28 PM

whack it with a PLASTIC mallet, its what I do.

then clean it more often.

Skans · July 8, 2009, 03:24 PM

Don't wack it! It's probably still cocked. Or, there is something that's not in the right place. Follow the dissasembly instructions. I recall having this same problem with my MK II until I followed the directions, and the pin slid out easily.

MTMilitiaman · July 8, 2009, 04:01 PM

Quote:

This is why I don't own a Ruger Mark

+1

Ruger couldn't have made the Mk more difficult to field strip if they had tried.

There are enough good .22LR pistols out there that I don't see the need to deal with it--I just don't need the frustration. My brother and I have a Ruger Mk II with a TacSol PacLite upper on it and a Sightron red dot. The thing is a tack driver and usually pretty reliable. It's fun, but taking the thing apart is just too much of a PITA. When I get a .22 handgun for myself, it won't be a Ruger anything--probably a Buckmark.

patriotthad · July 8, 2009, 04:17 PM

Dry fire it first. Otherwise it will not come apart.

tacdriver22mk2 · July 8, 2009, 04:33 PM

i do dry fire it it the mainspring housing swings out fine but i cant get the pin out thats atached to the mainspring housing wont come out but will move a little but nor all the way

Notenoughguns · July 8, 2009, 04:58 PM

Mine was tight the first time too. I would try smacking it with a plastic mallet. I know I had to smack my receiver to get it off the frame the first time out. Also I don't think you can even open the mainspring latch if it is cocked. All you guys that say the Ruger is so hard to field strip must not have much mechanical aptitude, Read the manual and follow directions, piece of cake.

tacdriver22mk2 · July 8, 2009, 05:16 PM

it was made in 89 and im the second owner and i alredy stripped it

Catfish25p2000 · July 8, 2009, 07:32 PM

Don't take it to a gunsmith! This guy is on Rimfirecentral and the THE MAN when it comes to Rugers...
http://guntalk-online.com/service.html
This will help.

Catfish25p2000 · July 8, 2009, 07:33 PM

For me it wasn't the stripping down I had the problem with, it was getting it back together.

Tom2 · July 8, 2009, 07:47 PM

Yea it is a PITA but I notice on old well used ones that is not so much of a chore due to wear probably. And alot of rimfire owners do not clean the guns anyway till it gets a thick filling of black gunk and will not work right anymore. So they probably planned with that in mind and figured someone would take them apart only every 5000 rounds or something. Or never, in the case of some folks. Otherwise give the guy a break, it was just about the first product they designed and maybe not perfect in all regards. But in other aspects it is great. Buckmark-I was always afraid of bending that flimsy little ejector it has.

tacdriver22mk2 · July 8, 2009, 07:48 PM

it didnt help because the piece wont budge but thanks anyways

Notenoughguns · July 8, 2009, 07:59 PM

If the gun is well used it might just be a burr/wear on the pin that is holding it in. If it was me, I'd find a way to secure the frame well give it a good solid whack with a hard plastic hammer/punch. Of corse you should be sure that you are striping it correctly per the manual beforehand. Good luck.

tacdriver22mk2 · July 8, 2009, 08:06 PM

not gonna take the chance if i messed it up i would never forgive my self got it for christmas from my dad and it was my first .22 and first pistol just gonna have a smith take a look at it

highrider · July 8, 2009, 08:11 PM

I had a Mark II Government Competition model. Great gun. Got rid of it because it was such a pain in the ass to clean.

skyflyer · July 8, 2009, 08:40 PM

http://www.myoutdoortv.com/video/vid...6gORHgbTOwcoRq

This video explains it very well follow closely.

July 7, 2009, 08:36 PM	#1
tacdriver22mk2 Member Join Date: July 2, 2009 Location: lake worth fl Posts: 26	Help me please my gun wont come apart ok guys agter about 1250-1500 rounds through my ruger mkII i realy need to take it apart to clean it and the main spring housing latch swings out but as i go to pull the pin securing the bolt out it wount budge and i freaking realy was bearing down on it and nothing can any one help i put oil in it tryed smacking where the pin pertrudes behind the rear sight and nothing please help

July 8, 2009, 12:06 PM	#10
predecessor Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2006 Posts: 837	This is why I don't own a Ruger Mark __________________ ________________________________________________________________________ The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

July 8, 2009, 07:47 PM	#20
Tom2 Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,676	Yea it is a PITA but I notice on old well used ones that is not so much of a chore due to wear probably. And alot of rimfire owners do not clean the guns anyway till it gets a thick filling of black gunk and will not work right anymore. So they probably planned with that in mind and figured someone would take them apart only every 5000 rounds or something. Or never, in the case of some folks. Otherwise give the guy a break, it was just about the first product they designed and maybe not perfect in all regards. But in other aspects it is great. Buckmark-I was always afraid of bending that flimsy little ejector it has. __________________ Your gun is like your nose, it is just wrong for someone else to pick it for you!

July 8, 2009, 07:48 PM	#21
tacdriver22mk2 Member Join Date: July 2, 2009 Location: lake worth fl Posts: 26	it didnt help because the piece wont budge but thanks anyways __________________ price for a lane at palm beach shooting center...$8 price for 50 38's...$18.95 the look on a 13 year olds face as he turns around after using 6 of those 38's...priceless

July 8, 2009, 08:06 PM	#23
tacdriver22mk2 Member Join Date: July 2, 2009 Location: lake worth fl Posts: 26	not gonna take the chance if i messed it up i would never forgive my self got it for christmas from my dad and it was my first .22 and first pistol just gonna have a smith take a look at it __________________ price for a lane at palm beach shooting center...$8 price for 50 38's...$18.95 the look on a 13 year olds face as he turns around after using 6 of those 38's...priceless Last edited by JohnKSa; September 5, 2009 at 12:34 AM. Reason: Terminology adjustment.

July 7, 2009, 08:40 PM	#2
jlbpa Senior Member Join Date: September 25, 2000 Posts: 196	have you tried a piece of leather or something similar to protect the surface of the latch and grabbing it with a pair of pliers or maybe even vise grips

July 7, 2009, 08:45 PM	#3
tacdriver22mk2 Member Join Date: July 2, 2009 Location: lake worth fl Posts: 26	no im probably going to take it to a smith at gander tomorrow but just wanted to know if i can do something cheaper but thanks ill try it now

July 7, 2009, 08:46 PM	#4
Dave_D55 Junior Member Join Date: April 11, 2009 Posts: 2	You are doing what I would - I would also try penetrating oil. I have a Mk III, somewhat similar in design. When it was new - I used a wooden dowel and a hammer to pound the bolt-stop pin out. It got loose enough to do by hand after 5 or 6 disassemblies. I recommend this forum where a lot of Mark II and Mark III experts hang out. Regards, Dave

July 7, 2009, 08:52 PM	#5
Dave_D55 Junior Member Join Date: April 11, 2009 Posts: 2	The manual says to first dry-fire the pistol to move the hammer to it's fired (forward) position. Not sure if that would prevent the removal of the bolt-stop pin but I would make sure you are going by the book. Good luck, Dave

July 7, 2009, 08:54 PM	#6
Colt1911forever Junior member Join Date: January 20, 2009 Posts: 328	http://www.1bad69.com/ruger/field_strip.htm

July 8, 2009, 09:17 AM	#7
melchloboo Senior Member Join Date: October 2, 2008 Posts: 279	I also have to sometimes use a punch and hammer to get the bolt stop out. One good tap usually does it.

July 8, 2009, 10:30 AM	#8
Steve1911 Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2009 Posts: 431	Have you tried dynomite...?

July 8, 2009, 11:56 AM	#9
MemphisJim Senior Member Join Date: April 9, 2007 Location: Suburban Memphis, TN (Mississippi side) Posts: 120	I had the same experience with mine about three years ago. I called Ruger in Prescott and was put through to a young lady. After I explained my predicament and she got her laughing under control, she talked me through a number of steps that magically freed everything up and let me disassemble my 22/45. She then talked me through the correct reassembly process. For me, it was worth the price of the phone call. Wish I could remember her name so you could ask for her.

July 8, 2009, 01:28 PM	#11
curt.45 Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2008 Location: Fort Wayne Ind. Posts: 866	whack it with a PLASTIC mallet, its what I do. then clean it more often.

July 8, 2009, 03:24 PM	#12
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	Don't wack it! It's probably still cocked. Or, there is something that's not in the right place. Follow the dissasembly instructions. I recall having this same problem with my MK II until I followed the directions, and the pin slid out easily.

July 8, 2009, 04:17 PM	#14
patriotthad Senior Member Join Date: April 26, 2009 Posts: 105	Dry fire it first. Otherwise it will not come apart.

July 8, 2009, 04:33 PM	#15
tacdriver22mk2 Member Join Date: July 2, 2009 Location: lake worth fl Posts: 26	i do dry fire it it the mainspring housing swings out fine but i cant get the pin out thats atached to the mainspring housing wont come out but will move a little but nor all the way

July 8, 2009, 04:58 PM	#16
Notenoughguns Member Join Date: December 14, 2008 Location: Kommiefornia Posts: 80	Mine was tight the first time too. I would try smacking it with a plastic mallet. I know I had to smack my receiver to get it off the frame the first time out. Also I don't think you can even open the mainspring latch if it is cocked. All you guys that say the Ruger is so hard to field strip must not have much mechanical aptitude, Read the manual and follow directions, piece of cake.

July 8, 2009, 05:16 PM	#17
tacdriver22mk2 Member Join Date: July 2, 2009 Location: lake worth fl Posts: 26	it was made in 89 and im the second owner and i alredy stripped it

July 8, 2009, 07:32 PM	#18
Catfish25p2000 Senior Member Join Date: April 26, 2009 Posts: 263	Don't take it to a gunsmith! This guy is on Rimfirecentral and the THE MAN when it comes to Rugers... http://guntalk-online.com/service.html This will help.

July 8, 2009, 07:33 PM	#19
Catfish25p2000 Senior Member Join Date: April 26, 2009 Posts: 263	For me it wasn't the stripping down I had the problem with, it was getting it back together.

July 8, 2009, 07:59 PM	#22
Notenoughguns Member Join Date: December 14, 2008 Location: Kommiefornia Posts: 80	If the gun is well used it might just be a burr/wear on the pin that is holding it in. If it was me, I'd find a way to secure the frame well give it a good solid whack with a hard plastic hammer/punch. Of corse you should be sure that you are striping it correctly per the manual beforehand. Good luck.

July 8, 2009, 08:11 PM	#24
highrider Member Join Date: November 3, 2007 Location: Western PA - Steeler Country!! Posts: 43	Help me please my gun wont come apart I had a Mark II Government Competition model. Great gun. Got rid of it because it was such a pain in the ass to clean.

July 8, 2009, 08:40 PM	#25
skyflyer Member Join Date: November 5, 2008 Location: iowa Posts: 21	http://www.myoutdoortv.com/video/vid...6gORHgbTOwcoRq This video explains it very well follow closely.

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