870 loading problem

Big Bill · December 28, 2009, 08:29 PM

My new 870 express synthetic is supposed to accept 6+1. I can load 6+1 2-3/4" birdshot, but not 2-3/4" 00 buckshot even though the cartridges look identical in size.

Has anyone else had this problem? The gun is brand new and I called Remington. They're sending me a new magazine spring.

hogdogs · December 28, 2009, 08:35 PM

Since shell length is based on fired length, it varies brand to brand for unfired length...
Likely the issue.
Brent

Big Bill · December 28, 2009, 08:44 PM

Brent - the 00 buck is federal ammo. I compaired it size for size with the birdshot and it is identical except that the birdshot is low brass and the buckshot is high brass. But, overall the cartridges are the same dimensions.

hogdogs · December 28, 2009, 08:49 PM

well since pysics weren't my strong suit, I can't offer more for ya... Seems they should work if length is same. Brass length shouldn't matter at all.
Brent

Big Bill · December 28, 2009, 09:02 PM

That's my thinking Brent. I'm baffled.

zippy13 · December 28, 2009, 10:02 PM

Big Bill,
Just out of curiosity, have you compared the loaded length of your Federal 00s to Remington's 00 offering? After all, it's a Remington gun, and if you can get 6+1 with the Rem 00 loads, then your problem is with Fed, not your gun. Just a something to think about.

Big Bill · December 28, 2009, 10:13 PM

I can get 6+1 Federal Multi-Purpose Loads that are 2 3/4" in the gun just fine. They are the same dimensions as the Federal 00 buckshot that I can only get 5+1 in the gun.

So, I'll probably buy a box of Remington 00 buckshot in 2 3/4" and test them. Thanks for the idea.

December 28, 2009, 08:29 PM	#1
Big Bill Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 1,053	870 loading problem My new 870 express synthetic is supposed to accept 6+1. I can load 6+1 2-3/4" birdshot, but not 2-3/4" 00 buckshot even though the cartridges look identical in size. Has anyone else had this problem? The gun is brand new and I called Remington. They're sending me a new magazine spring. __________________ There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time." - General George Patton Jr Last edited by Big Bill; December 28, 2009 at 08:40 PM.

December 28, 2009, 08:44 PM	#3
Big Bill Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 1,053	Brent - the 00 buck is federal ammo. I compaired it size for size with the birdshot and it is identical except that the birdshot is low brass and the buckshot is high brass. But, overall the cartridges are the same dimensions. __________________ There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time." - General George Patton Jr

December 28, 2009, 09:02 PM	#5
Big Bill Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 1,053	That's my thinking Brent. I'm baffled. __________________ There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time." - General George Patton Jr

December 28, 2009, 10:13 PM	#7
Big Bill Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 1,053	I can get 6+1 Federal Multi-Purpose Loads that are 2 3/4" in the gun just fine. They are the same dimensions as the Federal 00 buckshot that I can only get 5+1 in the gun. So, I'll probably buy a box of Remington 00 buckshot in 2 3/4" and test them. Thanks for the idea. __________________ There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time." - General George Patton Jr

December 28, 2009, 08:35 PM	#2
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Since shell length is based on fired length, it varies brand to brand for unfired length... Likely the issue. Brent

December 28, 2009, 08:49 PM	#4
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	well since pysics weren't my strong suit, I can't offer more for ya... Seems they should work if length is same. Brass length shouldn't matter at all. Brent

December 28, 2009, 10:02 PM	#6
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	Big Bill, Just out of curiosity, have you compared the loaded length of your Federal 00s to Remington's 00 offering? After all, it's a Remington gun, and if you can get 6+1 with the Rem 00 loads, then your problem is with Fed, not your gun. Just a something to think about.