Uberti's made in the 70's

noelf2 · January 25, 2016, 08:33 AM

I have the opportunity to pick up a Uberti 1858 stainless steel target model revolver that was born in 1978. How well made are the earlier Uberti's? Did they still forge the barrels? Also, I have a howell's conversion cylinder that's about 4 years old. Do you reckon it would fit an older gun? Not sure if the specs have changed over the years... This gun was made for Navy Arms.

g.willikers · January 25, 2016, 11:36 AM

Can't speak to the parts interchangeability, but the guns of that era were safe to use.
I had a bunch of them back then, all Navy Arms, used them regularly and don't recall any problems.

44 Dave · January 25, 2016, 11:48 PM

Some where in there the nipple thread changed, from 6x.75 mm to 1/4x28. I was advised to use ones listed for Euorsrms for my 1869 built.

swathdiver · January 26, 2016, 10:25 AM

Forged frames were introduced in 2007. That doesn't mean the older ones cannot handle full power loads, they can and do just fine.

The gun in 2007 was resized making it near identical to the originals; they weigh the same. However, the cylinder from an original Remington, a 1978 Uberti and a 2015 Uberti will all interchange today.

Idaho 45 Vaquero · January 26, 2016, 12:25 PM

I have a Uberti of that era by Navy Arms. A cap/ball Confederate style navy pistol with a brass frame. I use it a lot for shooting fast, messing around quick drawing (if I shoot my leg, its my leg).

I have to tighten the screws in the brass frame every once in a while, but you probably would not have that problem with a steel frame. I broke a cylinder latch/cylinder stop, but that seems normal for blackpowder revolvers that get used.

Overall, no real problems. Nice gun.

Hawg · January 26, 2016, 12:26 PM

The barrels would have been made from bar stock.

noelf2 · January 26, 2016, 03:30 PM

Thanks for the info. I passed on the gun. Really looking for blue, not ss anyway. At $250, it's not a bad deal though.

**4V50 Gary** · January 26, 2016, 03:56 PM

Thanks Swathdiver. I didn't know that Uberti went to forged frames in 2007. I remember a friend who had some Italian repro that had a cracked frame. Clearly it was an earlier made gun and I don't know the maker other than it came from Italy. I shied away from Italian repros for a long time after that.

swathdiver · January 28, 2016, 07:56 AM

Your welcome! At the same time they tightened up the twist. This information pertains to the "1858" New Model Army by Uberti. They did the same in 2002 with their Dragoons, don't remember off-hand about the other models.

Driftwood Johnson · January 31, 2016, 12:55 AM

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I have to tighten the screws in the brass frame every once in a while, but you probably would not have that problem with a steel frame.

Howdy

Screws back out with steel frame revolvers too. Colts even came with little plastic washers under the screw head to prevent the screw from backing out. Pretty useless, and they got deformed and lost the first time you took the gun apart anyway. I have to remember to tighten the screws on my Colts every once in a while.

swathdiver · February 1, 2016, 12:00 AM

Each time we take the Walker, after an afternoon of shooting nearly all of the screws have worked themselves loose! Just part of the fun!

Kevin Rohrer · February 1, 2016, 10:58 AM

Aren't Ubertis made by Pedersoli, who makes excellent firearms? I have a 2006 Pedersoli Brown Bess and it is excellent.

noelf2 · February 1, 2016, 12:28 PM

My understanding is they are competing companies.

Hawg · February 1, 2016, 11:04 PM

Uberti is part of Benelli USA and Pedersoli bought out Euroarms several years ago.

January 25, 2016, 08:33 AM	#1
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	Uberti's made in the 70's I have the opportunity to pick up a Uberti 1858 stainless steel target model revolver that was born in 1978. How well made are the earlier Uberti's? Did they still forge the barrels? Also, I have a howell's conversion cylinder that's about 4 years old. Do you reckon it would fit an older gun? Not sure if the specs have changed over the years... This gun was made for Navy Arms. __________________ Liberty and freedom often offends those who understand neither. Last edited by noelf2; January 25, 2016 at 08:48 AM.

January 25, 2016, 11:36 AM	#2
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	Can't speak to the parts interchangeability, but the guns of that era were safe to use. I had a bunch of them back then, all Navy Arms, used them regularly and don't recall any problems. __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

January 26, 2016, 10:25 AM	#4
swathdiver Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2012 Location: Treasure Coast, Florida Posts: 335	Forged frames were introduced in 2007. That doesn't mean the older ones cannot handle full power loads, they can and do just fine. The gun in 2007 was resized making it near identical to the originals; they weigh the same. However, the cylinder from an original Remington, a 1978 Uberti and a 2015 Uberti will all interchange today. __________________ “Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.” - Job 38:3

January 26, 2016, 03:30 PM	#7
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	Thanks for the info. I passed on the gun. Really looking for blue, not ss anyway. At $250, it's not a bad deal though. __________________ Liberty and freedom often offends those who understand neither.

January 26, 2016, 03:56 PM	#8
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,841	Thanks Swathdiver. I didn't know that Uberti went to forged frames in 2007. I remember a friend who had some Italian repro that had a cracked frame. Clearly it was an earlier made gun and I don't know the maker other than it came from Italy. I shied away from Italian repros for a long time after that. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

January 25, 2016, 11:48 PM	#3
44 Dave Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2013 Posts: 584	Some where in there the nipple thread changed, from 6x.75 mm to 1/4x28. I was advised to use ones listed for Euorsrms for my 1869 built.

January 26, 2016, 12:25 PM	#5
Idaho 45 Vaquero Member Join Date: March 15, 2015 Location: Idaho, nothing but sagebrush Posts: 96	I have a Uberti of that era by Navy Arms. A cap/ball Confederate style navy pistol with a brass frame. I use it a lot for shooting fast, messing around quick drawing (if I shoot my leg, its my leg). I have to tighten the screws in the brass frame every once in a while, but you probably would not have that problem with a steel frame. I broke a cylinder latch/cylinder stop, but that seems normal for blackpowder revolvers that get used. Overall, no real problems. Nice gun.

January 26, 2016, 12:26 PM	#6
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,190	The barrels would have been made from bar stock.

January 28, 2016, 07:56 AM	#9
swathdiver Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2012 Location: Treasure Coast, Florida Posts: 335	Your welcome! At the same time they tightened up the twist. This information pertains to the "1858" New Model Army by Uberti. They did the same in 2002 with their Dragoons, don't remember off-hand about the other models. __________________ “Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.” - Job 38:3

February 1, 2016, 12:00 AM	#11
swathdiver Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2012 Location: Treasure Coast, Florida Posts: 335	Each time we take the Walker, after an afternoon of shooting nearly all of the screws have worked themselves loose! Just part of the fun! __________________ “Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.” - Job 38:3

February 1, 2016, 10:58 AM	#12
Kevin Rohrer Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2010 Location: Medina, Ohio Posts: 1,049	Aren't Ubertis made by Pedersoli, who makes excellent firearms? I have a 2006 Pedersoli Brown Bess and it is excellent. __________________ Member: Orange Gunsite Family, NRA--Life, ARTCA, and American Legion. Caveat Emptor: Cavery Grips/AmericanGripz/Prestige Grips/Stealth Grips from Clayton, NC. He is a scammer

February 1, 2016, 12:28 PM	#13
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	My understanding is they are competing companies. __________________ Liberty and freedom often offends those who understand neither.

February 1, 2016, 11:04 PM	#14
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,190	Uberti is part of Benelli USA and Pedersoli bought out Euroarms several years ago.