Mannlicher WWI?

TenmaNeko · August 21, 2010, 10:51 PM

Can anyone here identify this rifle? I believe it's a Steyr Mannlicher from around the WWI era. But it'd just a guess. It uses a bloc clip to load ammo from the top. If I recall correctly, the caliber was 8x50mmR. It is a straight pull bolt action, with double triggers. People I have asked haven't seen anything like it. The only marking I could find was a serial number.

Thanks for any help.

tater134 · August 22, 2010, 02:25 AM

Its a very nicely done Steyr M95 sporting rifle.Ive seen a few others that are similar and they dont appear to be very common.Thats about all I can tell you.

PetahW · August 22, 2010, 07:06 PM

I believe that style of full-stocked sporting rifle is referred to as a Stuzen (sp), or stalking, rifle.

The 1895 Steyr-Werke commercial sporters were fairly popular in Europe, prior to the introduction of the Model 1898 by the Mauser Company - who soon introduced Sporting Rifles in 4 configs based on the Model 1898.

Many users, though, still preferred the older/smoother, cock-on-closing rifle.

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TenmaNeko · August 23, 2010, 04:10 PM

Interesting! Is there any way to tell how old it is?

Does anyone still make the ammo for it? I'd kind of like to (literally) give it a shot.

Rampant_Colt · August 23, 2010, 04:16 PM

8X56R ammo is still available from a few places
I like the double-set triggers and wood on that one!
Cool rifles!

tater134 · August 23, 2010, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Interesting! Is there any way to tell how old it is?

Does anyone still make the ammo for it? I'd kind of like to (literally) give it a shot.

8x50R is out there if you look around.I know there are one or two places that will custom load it.I dont know of any that is produced commercially.

Esteban32696 · August 24, 2010, 10:36 AM

Be careful !! There are TWO different ammo sizes for these old rifles.The earlier ones were 8 x 50R , then many were upgraded to 8 x 56R. DO NOT substitute any ammo in it that it wasn't designed for !! If there is a large " S or H " on top of the receiver , then consider it to be 8 x 56R. Both , in surplus ammo , are very hard && $$ to find, but I have a little 8 x 56R that I will sell. PM me if interested. Must have the clips to load & fire unless you want to shoot it one at a time.

Hardcase · August 24, 2010, 11:50 AM

Buffalo Arms (http://www.buffaloarms.com) sells both 8x50R and 8x56R. At well over a buck a cartridge, it's not exactly a bargain. I think that dies are available for both cartridges if you look hard.

**Mike Irwin** · August 24, 2010, 12:03 PM

If it was a rifle built on the military straight pull action, but intended to be a commercial rifle, there's also a very good chance that it's NOT chambered in either the 8x50 or 8x56.

You need to do a chamber cast to determine the proper chambering.

TenmaNeko · August 24, 2010, 04:27 PM

There were a few cartridges left in the clips, but they were quite old looking. A couple had cracked brass. I'm hoping my father didn't throw them away. I'll check with him and see if he still has them.

August 22, 2010, 07:06 PM	#3
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	I believe that style of full-stocked sporting rifle is referred to as a Stuzen (sp), or stalking, rifle. The 1895 Steyr-Werke commercial sporters were fairly popular in Europe, prior to the introduction of the Model 1898 by the Mauser Company - who soon introduced Sporting Rifles in 4 configs based on the Model 1898. Many users, though, still preferred the older/smoother, cock-on-closing rifle. . Last edited by PetahW; August 24, 2010 at 04:40 PM.

August 23, 2010, 04:16 PM	#5
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August 24, 2010, 11:50 AM	#8
Hardcase Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2009 Location: Sunny Southern Idaho Posts: 1,909	Buffalo Arms (http://www.buffaloarms.com) sells both 8x50R and 8x56R. At well over a buck a cartridge, it's not exactly a bargain. I think that dies are available for both cartridges if you look hard. __________________ Well we don't rent pigs and I figure it's better to say it right out front because a man that does like to rent pigs is... he's hard to stop - Gus McCrae

August 24, 2010, 12:03 PM	#9
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	If it was a rifle built on the military straight pull action, but intended to be a commercial rifle, there's also a very good chance that it's NOT chambered in either the 8x50 or 8x56. You need to do a chamber cast to determine the proper chambering. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

August 22, 2010, 02:25 AM	#2
tater134 Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2009 Location: NE,PA Posts: 390	Its a very nicely done Steyr M95 sporting rifle.Ive seen a few others that are similar and they dont appear to be very common.Thats about all I can tell you.

August 23, 2010, 04:10 PM	#4
TenmaNeko Member Join Date: June 10, 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 62	Interesting! Is there any way to tell how old it is? Does anyone still make the ammo for it? I'd kind of like to (literally) give it a shot.

August 24, 2010, 10:36 AM	#7
Esteban32696 Member Join Date: February 10, 2010 Location: Fl. Posts: 80	Be careful !! There are TWO different ammo sizes for these old rifles.The earlier ones were 8 x 50R , then many were upgraded to 8 x 56R. DO NOT substitute any ammo in it that it wasn't designed for !! If there is a large " S or H " on top of the receiver , then consider it to be 8 x 56R. Both , in surplus ammo , are very hard && $$ to find, but I have a little 8 x 56R that I will sell. PM me if interested. Must have the clips to load & fire unless you want to shoot it one at a time.

August 24, 2010, 04:27 PM	#10
TenmaNeko Member Join Date: June 10, 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 62	There were a few cartridges left in the clips, but they were quite old looking. A couple had cracked brass. I'm hoping my father didn't throw them away. I'll check with him and see if he still has them.