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If bobcats are on your property, then there is a food source; eight pet food left out or small pets. Snakes can be handled easily enough, you can always try and find a pest control person who uses ferrets for snakes.
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I routinely make 50yd shots with 950fps pellet guns. You still have to shoot in a safe direction though, range is about 250yds with a 177.
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A 45 pound longbow and 125gr judo points does for garden pests in my yard, as even pellet guns are a no-no in town. Lethal on rabbits and squirrels at any range I can hit them ..... dunno about bobcats, but I've never had a bobcat stick around more than 2 or 3 seconds after he realized there was a human present.....
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DoubleK, my neighbor turned me in for using a pellet gun..... and the village sent me a warning letter with the pertinent village ordinance verbatim, complete with penalties ..... even throwing things like darts or spears, even blowguns, was verboten..... but it did not say anything about bows and arrows..... So. Neighbor saw me shooting the bow ..... didn't like it and said she was calling the town board ....never heard anything else about it.
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Sounds like you need to get on the village board!
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village boards in Nebraska? holy cow...there goes the quiet northern hideaway from the bussling usa neighborhood!
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The whole country is being invaded by city people running away from the messes they created themselves.
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Was she a transplant from CA? Every place in NV and FL where I have lived has had folks in their small urban backyards practicing with their bows.
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good point.
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Eliminating a poisonous snake off your property seems prudent. I do the same. There are plenty of non-poisonous snakes about to help with rodents and other pests. Yes, if I see a viper first , I can proceed however I see fit, but its the ones I don't see that concern me. I've never lost a dog to snakebite, but I've had a few bit, and it was ugly 'till it healed up. I've not been bit, and don't want to be. Certainly don't want bamawife bit either.
Had a close call in the dark by the AC unit, and bamaboy nearly stepped on one sunning on the front porch steps. Both of those were timber rattlers approaching 4' in length. Copperheads perhaps even more common, but smaller. See a few "ground rattlers", which are likely pygmy rattlesnakes, but they sure are marked like a massauga rattler, but we are supposedly not in the massauga's range. Cottonmouths about, but never seen one on the property, but certainly within a 1/4 mile or so. Keep an Win37 .410 as a snake and pest gun by the door most times. The 2-1/2" load with #8 or #9 shot will certainly kill any snake, and carry just as far as if it was launched from a bigger gun. Trouble with a .410 is that it is plenty loud, and I would think annoy most neighbors if you live in that kind of neighborhood. The little Ruger Bearcat with .22 ratshot will work too, if close enough, but you likely have to shoot more than once if outside 5-6" feet away. I generally leave a poisonous snake alone in the woods, and I an not one of those fools who nearly roll the truck over trying to run any snake over on the highway. More than one household out here in the country just keeps a hoe near the back door |
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Haven't you heard the legend of the field hand who chopped at a rattlesnake with a sharp hoe, cut the snake's head clear off and flipped it up into his face, fangs first?
My Great Grandfather allegedly lost an employee that way. Great Grandfather Hall was an interesting man, well regarded for giving paying jobs to freed slaves. He wasn't an MD but he had medical books and kept a medical bag in his two wheeled buggy and was all the doctor the country folks had. |
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410 works great for a snake gun and for hunting. But I use #4 or #6 shot. I only have a neighbor on one side of me. But since snakes are on the ground, most of the pellets will go into the ground also. Another option would be a 22 mag using ratshot, they pack a little more punch then the 22lr version.
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are you shooting up in the air or something?
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Forked stick and a burlap sack.
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Absolutely not. A round half acre has a radius of about 85 feet. You probably don't want to get hit with #8 at 85' or even 170'. #12 maybe, but still, one of those little boogers in your eye ???
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So you are either inside city limits in which case discharging a firearm (or in my case that means air rifles + bows/arrows) is forbidden. So that's a no-go. Or you are outside city limits in which case you can shoot whatever you want including a 22.
If you're in the city, check your city laws as they should say (or not say, which might be good) if air guns / pellet guns are forbidden or not. I shot a rabbit before (didn't eat it) with a 0.177 cal break action Gamo (spanish) air rifle. In a different town where air guns were not prohibited of course. It cost somewhere between 2-300 dollars or so and was considered middle of the road quality. It's pretty quiet, no hearing protection. With middle of the road pellets (Gamo brand) it can get quarter sized groups at 10-15 yards which is pretty good for not having found out what pellet it likes best. I would go with 22 cal if the main use was on animals, but wouldn't attempt a bobcat. How close were you planning on getting to the rattlers? If you're really close, you'll be shooting downwards within 10 yards or so. Too far and those pellets won't have the density of hits that you might want out of the 2" barrel. Maybe the pellets don't reach as far as people have saying, if you're talking about a 2" barrel. Looks like you have an excuse to test something out at a range. |
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The patterns were even similar in diameter ...the 16 ga. had a denser pattern because the shell carried more shot ... but the .410 shot traveled the same distances . Your best bet for keeping shot on your property is to shoot down ...elevating the gun up will allow the shot to travel, killing shots on birds can be made at 40 to 50 yards easily ... at 200 yards ...it will hit you ... and could put an eye out ! Gary |
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That's what I was thinking. Where do these snakes get high enough for a trajectory?
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