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June 12, 2009, 12:01 PM | #1551 |
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I inherited a SW in .32-20 CTG. The serial number is 44XXX. I need to get a couple replacement parts for it and I need to know what model number it is on the e-gun parts website. The year of manufacture would be nice too. Thanks!
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June 12, 2009, 02:09 PM | #1553 |
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Flyfish, My bad (no sleep) I updated my post (4 above) with the models.
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The M36 (no dash) dates from the 1962 - 1969 period based on the S/N, but must be prior to 1967, when the -1 was introduced. From the range given in SCSW, I'd guess it was in the '65 - '66 neighborhood, but there's really no way of knowing for sure from the information available. Prices are so variable regionally it's tough to say, but I'd guess somewhere in the low $400s.
1973 to '74 would be correct for the M36-1, most likely 1973 but again that's a guess. I'm really out of my element when it comes to things that are important to collectors such as boxes and tools and the like, and I don't want to give you any misinformation, so perhaps someone who's more of a collector can jump in. I think you've got the correct date on the M10-6 as well, although from the book it's not possible to be more definitive than 1966 to '67. I'd say somewhere in the high $300s on that. |
June 12, 2009, 06:13 PM | #1555 |
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Flyfish,
1967 was when he got on the job so it is possible that they had a previous year in stock. I am guessing the second gun would be worth at least as much as the first? |
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June 13, 2009, 12:15 AM | #1557 |
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I recently bought a S&W 686-1 serial#: AWM2XXX. Could someone look up it's birthday for me? Much obliged.
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June 13, 2009, 12:27 AM | #1558 |
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Bellator: July 1987.
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June 13, 2009, 12:36 AM | #1559 |
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If you can document the NYPD link then there may be some specialist collector interest. http://vivasandson.com/ buys ands sells NYPD guns, browsing through his site may help you with values. |
June 13, 2009, 12:50 AM | #1560 |
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Thank you Radagast.
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June 15, 2009, 10:21 AM | #1561 |
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Pre-Model 10 M&P with 5-digit Serial #
I just inherited a beauty of a .38 special revolver with a 5-inch barrel, but I am a little confused as to its age. The serial on the base is S-661XX, which is confusing since my understanding is that all the "S" serial numbers should have 6 digits between 700000 and 999999. I does not appear that one digit has worn off because the same 5-digit number is on the cylinder.
I think this gun is a 1946 or 1947 M&P, possibly with the fabled "long action", but I am not sure. I took it to a gun store and they told me it was n-frame, but that does not seem to make any sense - according to Wikipedia those were all larger caliber pistols. Any help and explanation much appreciated! |
June 15, 2009, 12:37 PM | #1562 |
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I have a Mod. 60 with serial # R1763xx. Could someone tell me when it was manufactured? Thanks in advance.
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June 15, 2009, 01:34 PM | #1563 |
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S&W Model 10
The barrel is engraved -- 38 s&w special CTG
Anyone know what the CTG stand for? 5" in barrel It looks like the one in email link. I inherited it a few years ago. My mother always told me that it was a cilvil war pistol that came from my great grandfather. When my family members and I were dividing up the estate per the will , my sister was livid that I received this item. She has only spoken to me a few times since my mothers funeral. Her beef is all about this gun. I laugh about how stupid this quibble is. I have considered giving it to her to reconsile our differences but I worry about it getting into her rebellious teens hands. I went to a gun shop about 10 years ago and the gun dealer told me that it was a ww1 revolver and that it was only worth about $125 in the condition that it was in. He even offered me $125 on the spot for it. I laughed and walked away. I doubt if that's the value. I hope someone can give me an idea of what its worth. I'm think $350 - $400. Thanks, JP Last edited by Glenn E. Meyer; November 30, 2013 at 11:47 AM. |
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I assume your gun has a fixed rear sight because you think it's an M&P. If so, it's a .38/44 Heavy Duty aka pre-Model 20 manufactured ca. early 1947. It's an N frame built to chamber a hot-rodded .38 Special cartridge called the .38/44 or .38 Special Hi-Speed, a predecessor to the .357 Magnum that was supposedly loaded hotter than modern .38Spl+P. Early .38/44s were marked ".38/44" on the barrel, but postwar examples were marked ".38 S&W SPECIAL CTG." just like an M&P. This gun and the .38/44 cartridge were marketed to law enforcement, but by the end of WWII when N frame production restarted, their thunder had pretty much been stolen by the .357 Magnum. They sold quite poorly, which has made them quite valuable thanks to the active S&W collector community. They're worth about 3X the value of an equivalent M&P aka Model 10, and their value has climbed sharply in the last couple of years. Quote:
The exception is if it's an M&P Target with an adjustable rear sight, which were produced on a special-order basis with some unusual options; some M&P Targets bring 3x-4x standard value. "CTG" stands for Cartridge. Your gun is chambered in .38 Special. Post some well-lit pictures and we'll try to be more specific. |
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Remove the screw. It will take the spring tension off the mainspring. The action will still cycle and the hammer will still fall, but nowhere near hard enough to actually ignite a live round. It will make the gun into a nice non-firing paperweight. |
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June 15, 2009, 04:11 PM | #1566 |
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Added pics -- see post above.
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Re: Pre-Model 10 M&P with 5-digit Serial #
Thanks carguychris, you have it right, I looked it up in the S&W book (much more reliable source) and I'm delighted to have a .38-44 Heavy Duty. I'm glad it is valuable, but I am not selling it!
Sounds like it will take +P ammo no problem. I'll take it out and shoot it later this week. And maybe I'll fix the info on Wikipedia... |
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Any advice on my 442 Airweight would be appreciated
Hope I'm posting correctly. New here. Anyways, just picked up a 442-1 (per stamp) on inside when you drop cylinder. Also stamped below it is "234".
Serial # CEA6xxx, black in color. Barrel stamped .38 S&W SPL, I have been trying to research this online but have not had much luck. Anyone know the difference between 442-1 & 442-2? lock / no lock? wheres the lock at? is this a +P revolver? What year was it made? Any info would be appreciated.Thanks! paid $300 for it. Seems to be good buy at today's prices....I hope Last edited by DnAZ; June 15, 2009 at 09:41 PM. Reason: addl info |
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Thanks for the 442 Airweight info
I bought this since I couldnt find a M&P 340 in-stock anywhere. Is S&W planning to make more? I would prefer a .357 of course.
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My relatives always told that the firing pin was bad and that was reason it was never shot when I was a teen. Once I found out from the tech that the firing pin was good, I went out and shot it 2 times and then cleaned it really well afterwards. Just wondering, I shot normal 38 special ammo. A buddy of mine said that I should have shot S&W 38 special ammo made by S&W. Any thoughts? |
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June 16, 2009, 03:51 AM | #1572 |
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.38 S&W Special is the correct name for .38 Special. S&W got out of the ammo business years ago, so you won't find any S&W branded .38 special on your gun shop shelves. Heat treating of cylinders on the Military & Police started at serial number 316648, so your gun just scrapes over the line and should be safe with any .38 Special standard pressure ammunition. S&W do not recommend using PlusP ammunition in any gun made before 1957. The sights on the M&P were regulated to hit point of aim with 158 grain .38 special standard velocity ammunition, so that is what I would use. Go ahead and shoot it. It might pay to print out this thread and show it to your sister as well - if she feels she has been gyped over a valuable antique she may cool down when she realizes it was a low value working gun. |
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Anyone know the answer to post 1564?
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Hi, I just picked up a S&W 10-7 .38 S&W Special CTG 4" with a serial nimber 570xx, and an 'E24' stamped above it. Can you please tell me what year it might be from? Thanks.
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