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July 8, 2013, 11:56 PM | #1 |
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In what states may out-of-state buyers purchase firearms?
With the normal assumptions (legal ID, ability to pass an FFL background check, etc.) in what states may out-of-state buyers purchase firearms from directly from a licensed FFL dealer? I was in North Carolina last summer and ran into a "no" from a dealer on a good specimen that I had been interested in.
I know that it is possible to have an FFL in one state send a gun to an FFL in another state, but that doubles the fees that these fine folks necessarily have to charge for their work to comply with the Federal regulatory overhead.
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July 9, 2013, 12:12 AM | #2 |
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Re: In what states may out-of-state buyers purchase firearms?
You can buy long guns in other states, but not handguns. And then, you can only buy long guns that are legal to own in your state (or otherwise you cannot take them back). Those are not state laws, they are federal laws.
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July 9, 2013, 07:08 AM | #3 |
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July 9, 2013, 08:10 AM | #4 |
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Often it's not a matter of law but something the FFL doesn't want to mess with. I live in PA right on the border with NY. Several dealers in the area won't sell to someone from NY because they don't know NY gun laws.
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July 9, 2013, 09:06 AM | #5 |
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See post #2. Plus ... the sale must be legal according to the laws of BOTH states. If the FFL in the selling state doesn't know the laws in your home state, he/she would likely decline on that basis.
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July 9, 2013, 09:21 AM | #6 |
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Also bear in mind that just because the sale is legal does not necessarily mean that the dealer must make the sale.
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It's primarily a matter of federal law. Here's the whole federal law story on interstate transfers of firearms (not including the rules for those with Curio and Relic licenses and the subject of dual residency):
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http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbys...gunlaws_nm.htm
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July 9, 2013, 01:51 PM | #11 |
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That bit about New Mexico seems to run counter to every other info source, and counter to Fed law. I'm pretty sure an individual state doesn't have the right to disregard the Fed law and sell to surrounding states. And it surely doesn't have the right to tell the surrounding states that they can sell to NM residents.
I would take that website advice with some rock salt. Sgt Lumpy |
July 9, 2013, 01:55 PM | #12 |
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It may be that NM's laws are simply outdated. If I'm not mistaken (& I count on y'all to tell me if I am), that federal law used to be (up until ~1986 or so) that one could buy firearms in states contiguous to one's state of residence.
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So until 1986, one could take possession of a handgun purchased in another State only from an FFL in his State of residence, but he could take possession of a long gun from an FFL in a State contiguous to his State of residence. Since 1986, that contiguous State limitation no longer applies under federal law. Note however, that the FFL requirement has applied to all interstate transfers since 1968.
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Spats is correct: After 1968 so states changed their state laws to conform to the federal "contiguous" state requirement for the transfer of long guns. After the federal law was changed and the long gun "contiguous state" requirement went away, some states did not change their local state law to reflect that change. (NY is one I know)
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Somebody summarize for me, please.
Long gun or handgun - To buy from another state does it need to go through an FFL in your own state? Or is there still something different for long guns? Sgt Lumpy |
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Sgt Lumpy, interstate transfer of long guns need only go through an FFL in the originating state. Interstate transfer of handguns need to go through a FFL of the resident's state.
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Here in CO a resident of any state that shares a border with CO may buy a firearm within this state but they have to be physically present.
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Under federal law:
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